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From: "Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org>
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Continuing on a side angle. I have a 300mhz Octane I'll ship to
someone in the US if they need more mips hardware. If you ask nice I
might even pay for the shipping. I haven't booted it in ages but it
used to work ;)
-Alec
On 1/10/08, Stuart Longland <redhatter@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Kumba wrote:
> > Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >>
> >> that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be
> >> maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back
> >> to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing
> >> profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead of time. perhaps a new
> >> category for profiles.desc ? "exp" for such ports ? i could see all
> >> *-fbsd ports being moved there. tweak repoman to be less verbose
> >> about dep issues for such profiles and we're set.
> >
> > Sounds like a plan. 'exp' would be the 'status' field? I need to
> > remove 2006.1, as that profile has been a big holdup due to it not bein=
g
> > glibc-2.4 friendly (or one of the newer glibcs back in that era; I
> > forget). Even pondering just outright booting 2007.0, as I've been
> > using 2007.1-dev since I commited it long ago, and haven't had an issue
> > with it really. I can then put 2008.0-dev together and use it as a
> > launch platform for ~arch migration.
>
> This is fine by me too. At the moment, my 2007.1 stages are built with
> stable keywords in mind, but that's something the user can easily fix. ;-=
)
>
> >> i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back*
> >> into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and
> >> it was hell), while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and
> >> generally not a blocker for package maintainers.
> >
> > Aye, I believe that was sh's removal and subsequent re-add?
> >
> > Part of the hangup lately has been our kernel support. O2 systems are
> > dead in the water in 2.6.24, and only work in 2.6.23 if you apply a hac=
k
> > to serial_core (a hack that only masks a problem rather than fixes it).
> > Octane's I can still forward port, but with the upstream author having
> > moved onto other interests, if something breaks badly enough from one
> > version to the next, then I run the risk of getting stuck on a
> > particular version permanently.
>
> Lately, I've been slacking for the last few weeks... no excuses... I've
> been concentrating on other projects and interests.
>
> Part of this is that I've been trying to get =B5Clibc stages going so we
> can build some newer netboot images (at this point, I'm considering
> doing a few bloated ones based on glibc) but thus far, I haven't been
> successful. I haven't bothered since my trip down to Gibraltar Ranges
> National Park.
>
> I've got one of the Lemote boxes building a userland that'll hopefully
> become a LiveUSB image that'll allow a user to try out Gentoo on one of
> these systems, and install it (by hand... although ultimately having the
> Gentoo Installer would be good too). At last check, it was building KDE
> 3.5.8. Presently, the only way to install Gentoo, is to use my
> precompiled kernel and stage3 tarball to boot the box using
> Root-over-NFS, so I'd like to get this going properly soon.
>
> My TODO list at present (no specific order):
> o Build a new netboot image for Cobalt
> o Rebuild my Qube2 using the 2007.1 stage3
> o Build boot media for Lemote Fulong
> o Test X11-related patches for Fulong on other MIPS systems to make sure
> they don't break anything (at some point, I'd like to see these
> systems supported out-of-the-box by Gentoo)
> o Check the documentation is still accurate
> o Clean up the bugzilla list
>
> Kumba,
> Since you're otherwise busy with other things, did you want me to=
build
> some new big-endian stages based on the 2007.1-dev profile? If so,
> could I get access to the SWARM? (I could do it on my O2, but I think
> the SWARM will easily outperform it.)
> --
> Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter) .'''.
> Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` :
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.'
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.'
>
> I haven't lost my mind...
> ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
>
>
>
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