From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDEY6-0003Bx-8v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:43:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6559EE0A0B; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051F4E0A0B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so1522615fkq.2 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.20 with SMTP id t20mr3322767hue.41.1200037405840; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.33.13 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:43:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:43:25 -0800 From: "Alec Warner" Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January] In-Reply-To: <478714EA.8040105@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080101103002.083C4652C4@smtp.gentoo.org> <47858CAF.8040907@gentoo.org> <200801100134.35669.vapier@gentoo.org> <4786FFD6.6000105@gentoo.org> <478714EA.8040105@gentoo.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 900c59d28a145d3c X-Archives-Salt: d4ace8a0-c6d4-4741-a581-a8616cef899f X-Archives-Hash: 76ba941a6de9ff5c1c61d30cd753ebf7 Continuing on a side angle. I have a 300mhz Octane I'll ship to someone in the US if they need more mips hardware. If you ask nice I might even pay for the shipping. I haven't booted it in ages but it used to work ;) -Alec On 1/10/08, Stuart Longland wrote: > Kumba wrote: > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> > >> that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be > >> maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back > >> to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing > >> profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead of time. perhaps a new > >> category for profiles.desc ? "exp" for such ports ? i could see all > >> *-fbsd ports being moved there. tweak repoman to be less verbose > >> about dep issues for such profiles and we're set. > > > > Sounds like a plan. 'exp' would be the 'status' field? I need to > > remove 2006.1, as that profile has been a big holdup due to it not bein= g > > glibc-2.4 friendly (or one of the newer glibcs back in that era; I > > forget). Even pondering just outright booting 2007.0, as I've been > > using 2007.1-dev since I commited it long ago, and haven't had an issue > > with it really. I can then put 2008.0-dev together and use it as a > > launch platform for ~arch migration. > > This is fine by me too. At the moment, my 2007.1 stages are built with > stable keywords in mind, but that's something the user can easily fix. ;-= ) > > >> i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back* > >> into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and > >> it was hell), while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and > >> generally not a blocker for package maintainers. > > > > Aye, I believe that was sh's removal and subsequent re-add? > > > > Part of the hangup lately has been our kernel support. O2 systems are > > dead in the water in 2.6.24, and only work in 2.6.23 if you apply a hac= k > > to serial_core (a hack that only masks a problem rather than fixes it). > > Octane's I can still forward port, but with the upstream author having > > moved onto other interests, if something breaks badly enough from one > > version to the next, then I run the risk of getting stuck on a > > particular version permanently. > > Lately, I've been slacking for the last few weeks... no excuses... I've > been concentrating on other projects and interests. > > Part of this is that I've been trying to get =B5Clibc stages going so we > can build some newer netboot images (at this point, I'm considering > doing a few bloated ones based on glibc) but thus far, I haven't been > successful. I haven't bothered since my trip down to Gibraltar Ranges > National Park. > > I've got one of the Lemote boxes building a userland that'll hopefully > become a LiveUSB image that'll allow a user to try out Gentoo on one of > these systems, and install it (by hand... although ultimately having the > Gentoo Installer would be good too). At last check, it was building KDE > 3.5.8. Presently, the only way to install Gentoo, is to use my > precompiled kernel and stage3 tarball to boot the box using > Root-over-NFS, so I'd like to get this going properly soon. > > My TODO list at present (no specific order): > o Build a new netboot image for Cobalt > o Rebuild my Qube2 using the 2007.1 stage3 > o Build boot media for Lemote Fulong > o Test X11-related patches for Fulong on other MIPS systems to make sure > they don't break anything (at some point, I'd like to see these > systems supported out-of-the-box by Gentoo) > o Check the documentation is still accurate > o Clean up the bugzilla list > > Kumba, > Since you're otherwise busy with other things, did you want me to= build > some new big-endian stages based on the 2007.1-dev profile? If so, > could I get access to the SWARM? (I could do it on my O2, but I think > the SWARM will easily outperform it.) > -- > Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter) .'''. > Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` : > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.' > http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.' > > I haven't lost my mind... > ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere. > > > -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list