From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-26980-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1IetE1-0006Ri-6N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:04:49 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l98DsNPE027864; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:54:23 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l98DqJTZ025443 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:52:20 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so988566nfh for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.8 with SMTP id e8mr3888346hud.1191851538799; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.52.6 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <b41005390710080652nf7dce79m862b960ad219a786@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:52:18 -0700 From: "Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org> Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass) In-Reply-To: <1191833415.31670.41.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200710012259.40589.uberlord@gentoo.org> <4709071F.6010900@gentoo.org> <20071007221505.GJ2848@gentoo.org> <200710072151.03442.vapier@gentoo.org> <4709A35B.6070407@gentoo.org> <1191833415.31670.41.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8fe44c255766fec1 X-Archives-Salt: e67caf99-28b4-4449-841c-0101f1fd3134 X-Archives-Hash: 15411a9317439205013d84113b8f4b0d On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > Fabian has summed it up nicely, thanks. i could care less what your userland > > > is outside of the ebuild environment since it doesnt matter to ebuild > > > writers. you want a deficient runtime environment, more power to you, but > > > forcing that environment onto ebuild developers is not acceptable. off the > > > top of my head, i'd like to see GNU find/xargs added to the ebuild > > > environment. > > > -mike > > > > Mike, exactly as I said. That's option #2, and I think it could be a > > great solution. As for deficient, well, that's in the eye of the > > beholder. ;) > > > > -Joe > > Question, if you go for #2. Does that mean you will need all the > required GNU userland to do binary only installs? > > It would be highly desireable to be able to do binary installs (write > your own binary only package manager) without depending on all the GNU > stuff needed to compile the packages. Your own binary only package manager would still need to provide Option #2; ie you need to have GNU tools installed to process the binary packages. pkg_* functions could still have GNU stuff in them and those still get run during a binary package install. -Alec -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list