From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2968138334 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1E14E0CF3; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CDF7E0AA4 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (dslb-002-200-185-218.002.200.pools.vodafone-ip.de [2.200.185.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3482D335D11 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180909143221.21d784d02f51623e8c57c545@gentoo.org> <1536510660.863.9.camel@gentoo.org> <20180910074539.GA6512@baraddur.perfinion.com> <0d8b7f02-9c38-969c-413b-69d4dee6ca89@gentoo.org> <32027432-a5d2-9e63-2eac-70e62f52d242@gentoo.org> <1536613181.17304.1.camel@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:26:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1536613181.17304.1.camel@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: b87d3a31-2f4b-45bf-8298-ce3cd234d737 X-Archives-Hash: 03b0716f90f8fb4ddff5508c3af99bb7 Mart Raudsepp schrieb: >> one way to look at it though, is that it is a valuable upstream >> contribution that this configuration produces the error, so Gentoo is >> contributing to upstream development because of it. > > And losing users and thus relevance in the process. Not everyone goes > to bugzilla always and then waits for a fix, or fixes it themselves. > Normal people wipe that stuff away and install an operating > system/distribution that doesn't cause them grief in its place. This is indeed a problem with -Werror (I mentioned it in a previous message). Tinderboxing as k_f suggested could not possibly cover the vast number of configurations that users have either. An alternative to -Werror could be maybe some kind of "package health" status that would alert users if warnings happened in supposedly warning-free code. Portage already has a "Package triggers severe warnings" QA notice which could be extended for this purpose. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn