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From: "Eric Polino" <aluink@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols)
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On 7/19/07, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) <hkBst@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> joshua jackson wrote:
> > Jakub Moc wrote:
> >> Petteri R=FDty napsal(a):
> >>> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
> >>> implemented.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Petteri
> >> As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
> >> Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to profi=
les.
> >
> >> Wrt pidgin - seriously, what's the big issue here? Users can't use
> >> emerge -pv output and determine what they want, or? Will we bloat the
> >> profiles everytime someone forgets to enable a flag and goes complain
> >> upstream about a 'missing' feature?
> >
> >
> >
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >> !DSPAM:469f3b40137571336712104!
> > Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was
> > nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the defaults to
> > what most people would consider sane (all protocols by default). As I
> > think most people emerging pidgin..would like to use any protocol by
> > default..not go..hey I don't have yahoo, I should check my use flags.
> > Which obviously hasn't happened as users pop up in #pidgin to ask why
> > the heck there isn't a yahoo account available.
> >
> > This should be a nothing change to do. Its also working with upstream
> > and maintaining some good relationships here..and or help improve them
> > in general. That should in fact you know...be part of our goals....to
> > improve communications between Gentoo and other projects.
>
> Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
> Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to =
go
> and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most pack=
ages
> have a herd associated with them which can belong to a project which coul=
d
> have an irc-channel where the relevant developers could be found and whic=
h can
> put common problems in its topic. Fallback for when no appropriate irc-ch=
annel
> can be found would be #gentoo. Currently it is usually difficult to find =
such
> irc-channels or to know if there is none and that your only option is #ge=
ntoo
> or #$upstream. It would also make it easier for users to start helping
> developers and eventually become developers themselves, since they won't =
need
> to search for a point of entry anymore.
Not sure if this fits in to what you're talking about, but I do know
that as myself a "would like to me maintainer someday", I'm somewhat
lost as to knowing how I can get involved and who I need to talk to.
Eric
> Marijn
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