From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25648 invoked by uid 1002); 28 Aug 2003 00:35:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 26714 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2003 00:35:07 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brett I. Holcomb Organization: Holcomb & Associates To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:41:30 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20030828005840.74aaaf24.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20030828005840.74aaaf24.spider@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop X-Archives-Salt: e6dd1ce5-baf6-45a4-8693-75a50d05d214 X-Archives-Hash: 8b6f5f691159bacfabee570d03b30ddb I'm afraid I have to agree with Spider. As a user I really don't see what good this will do for us. If I want to use a desktop I install it (I happen to use xfce) and then I set it up they way I want with my icons, taskbars, panels, whatever. Same if I decided to use KDE (which I do on another machine). I decide what gets put on the desktop, panel, etc. To me it is a total waste of effort/resources to develop a "Standard" desktop because there is no such thing. Every company, every individual (including individuals in a company) has a different idea of what the desktop should be. Every place I've been the first thing a user does is change his desktop to suit him - I do it to! It also doesn't seem to fit the Gentoo philosopy - if I want xfce or KDE, or Gnome I want it as it comes from them so I can make my changes - I don't want some team's idea of what the ideal desktop should be! On Wednesday 27 August 2003 18:58, you wrote: > begin quote > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:22:51 +0200 > > dams@idm.fr wrote: > > * What is desktop : > > desktop would be the project responsible of the desktop part of gentoo > > Linux, without making global decision, like : should we build a > > special product for desktop, should we have a modified install, should > > we restrict some possibility to default... > > I'm quite against this turn of development as it will split our meager > develpomentteam even further and direct resources at maintaining two > trees in paralell. Even if one is just "desktop cludge" to make the > DesktopDistribution work, it would require Time and Development. > > As a general thread, we could well develop a meta system to create one > (or more) generic desktop setup's (I guess we'd at least need two, one > for KDE and one for Gnome, or people would never shut up. ) > > > Preparing a desktop distribution would require a lot of planning though, > and is something that should be -VERY- carefully planned and documented > before proceeding. > > > * The tasks : > > This is where it becomes interesting. Who will do such discussion? > The management team? The users? The Developers? > > > That's why we might begin with a representation of what would the > >perfect desktop product be, and see if we have everything we need in > >gentoo. > > Thats a slippery slope to follow since it very much depends on the > purpouse of the desktop (corporate desktops may well -not- include a > webbrowser) > > > //Spider -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list