From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 876BA139083 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39082E1057; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.obsidian-studios.com (mail2.obsidian-studios.com [45.79.71.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD628E1005 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11134 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2017 19:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp2.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt-ml@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 4 Dec 2017 19:37:14 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.5(17223) on assp2.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp2.obsidian-studios.com m1-16233-17107 X-Assp-Session: 380EA5497D8 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=wlt.obsidian-studios.com) by assp2.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.5); 4 Dec 2017 11:37:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:37:12 -0500 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1512256684.30000.48.camel@gentoo.org> <49607e48-f277-6a36-4eef-6509dff001d5@iee.org> Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/cg1zX_Y98b1K=n6SWJKmD/6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 9530473b-030f-41da-9c2c-120e74a53924 X-Archives-Hash: c7a7ce6409a1b3e23aef92a24b5cd3b2 --Sig_/cg1zX_Y98b1K=n6SWJKmD/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:17:00 -0500 Alec Warner wrote: >=20 > Clearly if Gentoo could be successful if millions of people were > killed; we would not choose to kill millions of people. > Clearly if Gentoo could be successful if dozens of people were > harassed; we would not choose to harass dozens of people? >=20 > I think the advocacy is that people want a community where Gentoo can > be successful without needing to harass anyone. A noble goal eh? > If the cost of a successful Gentoo is people being harassed because it > cannot sustain a safe community; perhaps Gentoo shouldn't exist The fact that you were the one who caused the problems for me in 08. Who reported me to DevRel in 08 Alec? Are you proud of that some many years later? Did that help the Foundation or Gentoo? I was gone from 08-15 yet things did not improve and you are still here. That you ended up as a Trustee is ironic. Drive me out take my place and do nothing. Which Gentoo never did get any official status with IRS. No filings beyond the ones Daniel Robbins paid for out of his own pocket.... When he created the Foundation and donated Gentoo to the foundation. Least the work I did for the Foundation is visible and stands to this very day. Same bank account I helped establish after calling banks for 2 months solid post 911. Asking things like we have an international foundation with trustees not in the US. Does not ring any bells for money laundering or terrorism.... Perhaps people like you should not cause problems for and drive people like me away. Then maybe Gentoo would have a real legal foundation, budgets, weekly news letter paying for development, reimbursing developers for travel, conferences, etc. Pretty much everything FreeBSD has going on. You can see me referencing them any times in the -nfp logs from when I was a Trustee. Not to mention the lack of technical contributions. I can't find you Alec where are your commits? Or other activity? wlt@ws /usr/portage $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Thomson 55 William L. Thomson Jr wlt@ws /usr/portage $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Alec wlt@ws /usr/portage $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Warner Keeping all this out of tree https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo Much less other work on the Foundation. This is clear the people responsible for killing and harming Gentoo. Many like you remain from 2008. Still being just as destructive, masquerading as constructive. While doing what? Technical or Foundation wise? Show me the money :) --=20 William L. Thomson Jr. --Sig_/cg1zX_Y98b1K=n6SWJKmD/6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWiWj6AAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UF0rAJwNG8SSJeO7cikKvUMqW5Vc/F8zJQCeJVbGGS97z5B48Jrfq/XcMNESG58= =R7mE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/cg1zX_Y98b1K=n6SWJKmD/6--