From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98B7F139694 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 292BF1FC167; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.obsidian-studios.com (mail2.obsidian-studios.com [45.79.71.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B035F1FC03B for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19624 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2017 15:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp2.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt-ml@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 31 Jul 2017 15:00:42 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.5(17073) on assp2.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp2.obsidian-studios.com m1-13242-13504 X-Assp-Session: 3D47E71C2B8 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=localhost) by assp2.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.5); 31 Jul 2017 08:00:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 11:00:36 -0400 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20170731025617.GB14487@dt001651.civica.com.au> References: <20170724222223.6d359e47@sf> <20170724232244.GT12397@stuge.se> <1931696.H1tAJ0QB7a@porto> <20170731002830.GA14487@dt001651.civica.com.au> <20170731025617.GB14487@dt001651.civica.com.au> Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/IExGUfY7ri8NK_V8bH8WoGT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 037b0b74-73fd-4865-b49a-d0864a4fef60 X-Archives-Hash: 2f28b223597fc0d7c77e5cd5035ed5ab --Sig_/IExGUfY7ri8NK_V8bH8WoGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:56:18 +1000 Sam Jorna wrote: >=20 > Sorry, I thought this thread was about whether to keep or discontinue > the separation between stable and testing branches. Yes and it was others that said lack of stable would effect enterprise/professional usage. I simply said that argument was moot as there are other objections beyond not having stable. Most I know would say Gentoo as a whole is not stable, regardless of any stable packages, branch, etc. They do not consider Gentoo stable. FYI, I have always run Gentoo for professional usage. I have a business. My business has always run Gentoo on all servers, desktops, workstations etc. Those locally who have worked for me and in my LUG know this fact. I have also interviewed with many companies in the US who either did run Gentoo or still do. Thus I have some directly knowledge on that shrinking market. Beyond my opinion, gentoo -debian - suse -redhat https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=3Dgentoo+-debian+-suse+-redhat&l=3D Very few if any are after Gentoo skills. Change that to any other distro and see the difference. Of course Gentoo is always mentioned with others, but are they running Gentoo is the question. Seeking Gentoo skills and companies running Gentoo are not the same. gentoo https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=3Dgentoo+&l=3D It is always lumped in with others, rarely by itself. --=20 William L. Thomson Jr. --Sig_/IExGUfY7ri8NK_V8bH8WoGT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWX9GFAAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UAn9AKCMzfnl1K0l4MhJ+wvkUp+HQTR5FgCcDRMDFj2hEGp7OVeIfkaER+Ij+EI= =XL0Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/IExGUfY7ri8NK_V8bH8WoGT--