From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Sets vs Meta ebuilds
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:23:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <assp.0363fcd15f.20170708212304.7b4c2e4d@o-sinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170709011011.4e072d7b@snowblower>
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 01:10:11 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:58:13 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
> > > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> > > > The two ways are not the same, and there is a reason sets exist
> > > > in the first place. People seem to be over looking that fact. I
> > > > did not add sets. They are not new. I am simply trying to
> > > > expand their use.
> > >
> > > Sets exist because people keep saying "let's have sets!" without
> > > agreeing on what sets actually are or how they are to be used.
> >
> > Do they need to agree? Isn't Gentoo about choice? Maybe your use of
> > sets is different from mine. Is that not acceptable to have
> > choice?
>
> Well yes, they do need to agree, because otherwise when two different
> developers put sets in a profile expecting different effects, then at
> least two developers are going to end up confused, disappointed, and
> quite probably breaking user systems.
Valid points, so basically need a set of guidelines or rules for sets
used in profiles. Which should not be that complex, as usage is minimal.
Offhand, likely could be more;
- Sets used in profiles are "lists of packages" for users to
emerge/re-emerge, and as such should be minimal list only. Similar to
the contents of a profile/packages, less the * symbol.
- Sets used in profiles cannot have use expansion, versions or anything
beyond cat/pkg.
- Sets should not have the same file listed, in that case inherit the
other set if using overlapping packages or split into smaller
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William L. Thomson Jr.
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2017-07-07 16:32 [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:36 ` Lucas Ramage
2017-07-07 16:40 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:48 ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 17:05 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 17:31 ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 18:19 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 20:38 ` James Le Cuirot
2017-07-07 20:41 ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-07 20:53 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 2:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-07-08 22:34 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:09 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:24 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:39 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-08 23:58 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09 0:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-09 1:23 ` William L. Thomson Jr. [this message]
2017-07-09 7:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-09 13:53 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 3:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-08 23:35 ` Zac Medico
2017-07-08 23:46 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09 1:30 ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09 1:39 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09 4:30 ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09 13:58 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:01 ` Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:07 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09 0:27 ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09 1:29 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-09 10:19 ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09 1:32 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09 9:24 ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09 13:49 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 1:37 ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-10 4:43 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 18:59 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:07 ` Brian Evans
2017-07-10 19:15 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:25 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:28 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:36 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:39 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:45 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:48 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:52 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:55 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 20:27 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:30 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:42 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:08 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 23:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 23:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 20:27 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:31 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:57 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 21:32 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-12 0:05 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 4:17 ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 4:43 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 5:00 ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 5:14 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 5:19 ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 5:36 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 5:49 ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 6:06 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 6:40 ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 14:19 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:03 ` Sam Jorna
2017-07-12 15:14 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 16:07 ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-12 16:23 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12 16:38 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 18:29 ` Pacho Ramos
2017-07-12 16:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-15 8:34 ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-17 0:01 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2017-07-12 3:22 ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-12 3:43 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12 4:01 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 4:00 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
[not found] ` <20170712000024.1956a714@o-sinc.com>
2017-07-12 4:06 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 4:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2017-07-10 20:36 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 20:47 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:55 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:40 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:24 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 22:47 ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-10 23:05 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 23:56 ` [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 1:12 ` R0b0t1
2017-07-11 1:14 ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-11 1:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11 1:42 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 1:29 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 2:03 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-11 1:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11 1:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 9:14 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-07-10 21:21 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2017-07-11 1:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-10 19:39 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:21 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 22:20 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 0:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
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