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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Sets vs Meta ebuilds
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:58:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <assp.0362c573bb.20170708195813.5404cb4a@o-sinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170709004957.18fb8d74@snowblower>

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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> > The two ways are not the same, and there is a reason sets exist in
> > the first place. People seem to be over looking that fact. I did
> > not add sets. They are not new.  I am simply trying to expand their
> > use.  
> 
> Sets exist because people keep saying "let's have sets!" without
> agreeing on what sets actually are or how they are to be used.

Do they need to agree? Isn't Gentoo about choice? Maybe your use of
sets is different from mine. Is that not acceptable to have choice?

> Sets  remain half-baked because it turns out they don't make
> consistent sense in different contexts when you give them a
> non-superficial amount of thought.

Much of the world is half baked, but we manage despite such. There is
much to be said about over thinking over engineering something.
Few if anything in life is perfect. Many of the things we depend on are
far from perfect. C'est la vie.

This must be a Gentoo thing. Sets have nothing to do with me. Seems they
have been around since ~2009. Someone coded in support for them etc.
Seems some find use for them, and others have objection.

Having been around Gentoo for some time, and just now coming across
sets. I find them quite useful! Just ran into one limitation of them.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-08 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 16:32 [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:36 ` Lucas Ramage
2017-07-07 16:40   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:48 ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 17:05   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 17:31     ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 18:19       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 20:38   ` James Le Cuirot
2017-07-07 20:41     ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 20:43     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-07 20:53       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08  2:21   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-07-08 22:34     ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:09       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:24         ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:39           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:49             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-08 23:58               ` William L. Thomson Jr. [this message]
2017-07-09  0:10                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-09  1:23                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  7:42                     ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-09 13:53                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10  3:42                         ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-08 23:35         ` Zac Medico
2017-07-08 23:46           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  1:30             ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09  1:39               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  4:30                 ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09 13:58                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:01   ` Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:07   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  0:27     ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09  1:29       ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-09 10:19         ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09  1:32       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  9:24         ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09 13:49           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10  1:37             ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-10  4:43               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 18:59                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:07                   ` Brian Evans
2017-07-10 19:15                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:25                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:28                         ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:36                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:39                             ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:45                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:48                                 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:52                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:55                                 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 20:27                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:30                                     ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:42                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:08                                         ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 23:22                                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 23:37                                             ` [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 20:27                                               ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:31                                                 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:57                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 21:32                                                   ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-12  0:05                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  4:17                                                       ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  4:43                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:00                                                           ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  5:14                                                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:19                                                               ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  5:36                                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:49                                                                   ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  6:06                                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  6:40                                                                       ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 14:19                                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:03                                                                           ` Sam Jorna
2017-07-12 15:14                                                                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 16:07                                                                               ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-12 16:23                                                                                 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12 16:38                                                                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 18:29                                                                                     ` Pacho Ramos
2017-07-12 16:35                                                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-15  8:34                                                                                 ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-17  0:01                                                                                   ` Aaron W. Swenson
2017-07-12  3:22                                                   ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-12  3:43                                                     ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12  4:01                                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  4:00                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
     [not found]                                                     ` <20170712000024.1956a714@o-sinc.com>
2017-07-12  4:06                                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  4:23                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2017-07-10 20:36                                     ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 20:47                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:55                                         ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:40                                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:24                                             ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 22:47                                               ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-10 23:05                                                 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 23:56                                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  1:12                                                   ` R0b0t1
2017-07-11  1:14                                                     ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-11  1:23                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11  1:42                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  1:29                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  2:03                                                       ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-11  1:09                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11  1:35                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  9:14                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-07-10 21:21                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2017-07-11  1:10                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-10 19:39                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:21       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 22:20 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  0:22   ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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