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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:12:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <assp.0273d87ab0.20170410141210.48be6e45@o-sinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BB4B44B2-BA23-4B88-8A65-5ACBE6241D5E@chead.ca>

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:58:10 -0700
Christopher Head <chead@chead.ca> wrote:

> On April 9, 2017 7:04:13 PM PDT, "William L. Thomson Jr."
> <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> >The present system is a PITA for users. Fiddling with adding/removing
> >targets for Python/Ruby.  
> 
> As an ordinary user, that does sound like a real annoyance. As an
> ordinary user, I also never do it. I don’t have any targets set by
> hand. I probably never will. 

This is why it is not an issue for you. Your basically saying I do not
care what version of Python is on my system. I do not care how many
versions of python.

I mentioned in a post, doing a wildcard on the targets being the ONLY
painless option for users.

> And yes, I do some Python development
> myself (not much packaging but “using” Python in the sense of writing
> Python code). I find the Python experience largely painless: I
> currently have 2.7.12 and 3.4.5 installed.

Are you running stable? There are other versions in tree. 3.4, 3.5,
3.6. If you were running unstable, you would have 4 pythons, including
2.7. That you only have 2 seems like you are running stable.

If your writing new python code against say 3.4 and not 3.6. Not sure
about that... Seems like it would keep things bound to older versions
and never let things move forward.

Usually when writing new code, you use the latest version of stuff. Not
always but usually best. If anything make code support older while
targeting newer.

> Eventually 3.5 will get
> installed and 3.4 will go away. Just like every other package. I
> won’t need to do any config file editing, just a revdep-rebuild run
> perhaps. So regardless of the situation for maintainers, as a user, I
> don’t see this pain. 

Because you are not setting or dealing with the targets. You went with
the mindless approach. Like doing a wildcard on USE flags.

Your enabling support for all versions across the board for anything
that supports it. That is quite a different experience if you go trying
to use a specific one.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-10 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-09 16:15 [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:36 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 22:20   ` Brian Dolbec
2017-04-09 22:48     ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:15     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 23:59       ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10  0:37         ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-10  0:58         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 14:57           ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10 15:49             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:44 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-09 22:28   ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:08   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:52 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-09 22:34   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 22:42   ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:04 ` James Le Cuirot
2017-04-10  5:33   ` Hans de Graaff
2017-04-10  1:38 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10  2:04   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10  4:35     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 15:52       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:30         ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 17:58     ` Christopher Head
2017-04-10 18:12       ` William L. Thomson Jr. [this message]
2017-04-10 20:11         ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-20 17:49         ` Christopher Head
2017-04-20 18:23           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-21 12:53           ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:40       ` Alan McKinnon
2017-04-10  6:37 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 13:21   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-04-10 17:50     ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 16:03   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 17:14     ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 17:49       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:10         ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 18:44           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:57             ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 19:38               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:51                 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:01                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:17                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:32                       ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:21                     ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:33                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:43                         ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:33                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:44                             ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 22:51                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:56                             ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 22:42                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:09                     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 22:35                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:56                         ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 23:04                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:31             ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 19:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-04-10 19:57                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:29                   ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 20:40                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:48                       ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:27                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:51                       ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:18                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:33                           ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:58                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  4:48                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-04-11 17:47                                 ` James Potts
2017-04-11 21:02                                   ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:17                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:25                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:22                     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:49               ` [gentoo-dev] No Java Team, Java neglect was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:04                 ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 20:15                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:58                     ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:21                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:31                         ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:54                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  9:18                             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 15:22                               ` [gentoo-dev] OT Getting to know others in Gentoo was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 15:57                                 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 22:23                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Viktar Patotski
2017-04-12  7:25                                 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-10 21:48     ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 20:26 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-25  9:16 ` Sergey Popov

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