From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 459F1139694 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4750121C095; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.obsidian-studios.com (mail2.obsidian-studios.com [45.79.71.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5F7E21C04E for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18398 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2017 15:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp2.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt-ml@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 10 Apr 2017 15:49:29 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.5(16366) on assp2.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp2.obsidian-studios.com m1-39369-15143 X-Assp-Session: 3A590129638 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=localhost) by assp2.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.5); 10 Apr 2017 08:49:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:49:23 -0400 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <92c75ab2-659b-6c10-d7d3-0da08c1ccc9f@gentoo.org> References: <20170409152002.550f3b4d.dolsen@gentoo.org> <0cf71d18-64f3-821b-e481-9889f5eb1872@gentoo.org> <92c75ab2-659b-6c10-d7d3-0da08c1ccc9f@gentoo.org> Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/Pe/sAmezA++rN38pkS7ojdw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 8f7e3e33-9b89-417b-ae3b-34c15c48f58a X-Archives-Hash: 65852ef8066a513f7616885d8f3c997e --Sig_/Pe/sAmezA++rN38pkS7ojdw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:57:43 -0400 >=20 > You are: when you find out that a stable package doesn't work with > the next version of python, you have to figure out who the maintainer > of that package is, and file a bug. That is how things are done for Java, and I think Perl as well. There tend to be tracker bugs for the next version. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D384609 > Then, whenever he decides to fix > it, you have to wait 30 days and file a stabilization request. Wait > another few months for that to go through, and repeat however many > times to fix every broken package. This has nothing to do with stable. A new version would not go direct to stable. That version would not be marked stable so not effecting stable packages till it is marked stable. > You can either spend months/years doing that for all affected > packages and every new version of python, or just commit the new > version of python and let things break. Neither option is an > improvement over the way things work now. The idea is to stop touching every ebuild per every new python or ruby release. Or when an old is removed. Also to stop having users mess with TARGETS. > We have it your way for PHP packages, and I wish it was like > Python/Ruby instead. That makes PHP, Perl, and Java. Just Python and Ruby are handled differently. --=20 William L. Thomson Jr. --Sig_/Pe/sAmezA++rN38pkS7ojdw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWOupgwAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UG6FAJsEpKCeAsWMdnktvdQnP4wHkQxgnwCeLtnh21rIF7FQmXaAMa5baIfwLKQ= =5mbf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Pe/sAmezA++rN38pkS7ojdw--