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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:58:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <assp.027322def3.20170410175857.3f957622@o-sinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1491859986.1661.19.camel@gentoo.org>

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:33:06 +0200
Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> So, to summarize: you want to destroy a reasonably reliable dependency
> system in favor of thing that randomly explodes because you failed at
> hacking at it?

Interesting comments. If the system is so well engineered. Why am I
having to "hack" it as you call it?

When did changing targets to only have 1 version of Ruby, or 2 pythons
becoming hacking. I do like how it was phrased. It shows right there
the issue. If ANYONE has to hack around it, it sucks....
 
> Well, you've already dismissed the users for which it works out of
> the box... obviously they're not a proper Gentoo users if they don't
> break their system and then complain that Gentoo is doing everything
> wrong because they can break their systems.

Only users who it works for, is those who are not wanting specific
versions and not others. As in those who do not set the targets and let
them be wide open, or wildcard. So they do not care what is installed.

They are likely also not doing much with USE flags or other things.
They obviously do not care what is on their systems.

Most any system admin does care about what is on their system. Every
other version is another potential for security issues etc. What good
system adminstrator just installs needless stuff because they are lazy.

Neither of these are good points. hacking nor users who do not care to
even set targets....

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-10 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-09 16:15 [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:36 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 22:20   ` Brian Dolbec
2017-04-09 22:48     ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:15     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 23:59       ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10  0:37         ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-10  0:58         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 14:57           ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10 15:49             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:44 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-09 22:28   ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:08   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:52 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-09 22:34   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 22:42   ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:04 ` James Le Cuirot
2017-04-10  5:33   ` Hans de Graaff
2017-04-10  1:38 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10  2:04   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10  4:35     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 15:52       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:30         ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 17:58     ` Christopher Head
2017-04-10 18:12       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:11         ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-20 17:49         ` Christopher Head
2017-04-20 18:23           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-21 12:53           ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:40       ` Alan McKinnon
2017-04-10  6:37 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 13:21   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-04-10 17:50     ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 16:03   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 17:14     ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 17:49       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:10         ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 18:44           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:57             ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 19:38               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:51                 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:01                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:17                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:32                       ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:21                     ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:33                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:43                         ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:33                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:44                             ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 22:51                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:56                             ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 22:42                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:09                     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 22:35                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:56                         ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 23:04                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:31             ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 19:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-04-10 19:57                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:29                   ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 20:40                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:48                       ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:27                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:51                       ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:18                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:33                           ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:58                             ` William L. Thomson Jr. [this message]
2017-04-11  4:48                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-04-11 17:47                                 ` James Potts
2017-04-11 21:02                                   ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:17                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:25                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:22                     ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:49               ` [gentoo-dev] No Java Team, Java neglect was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:04                 ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 20:15                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:58                     ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:21                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:31                         ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:54                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  9:18                             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 15:22                               ` [gentoo-dev] OT Getting to know others in Gentoo was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 15:57                                 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 22:23                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Viktar Patotski
2017-04-12  7:25                                 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-10 21:48     ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 20:26 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-25  9:16 ` Sergey Popov

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