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([2601:602:9c00:cf41:a15c:1ca:cdf1:57a3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v6sm7002412pfv.8.2016.10.04.06.13.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Oct 2016 06:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161003215933.GA28448@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> From: Nick Vinson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 06:12:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q18GC3iCMfinwoxm7oeAo8XkFpjbCIb4r" X-Archives-Salt: 60bcfeec-afd9-43dd-8c4c-c2d86396fd81 X-Archives-Hash: f1a08b7c904e78747bc33a77f1e840a2 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --q18GC3iCMfinwoxm7oeAo8XkFpjbCIb4r Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="K7hrkpuBhgxC0n7B8BC1LWQhWNoGloM6M" From: Nick Vinson To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0 References: <20161003215933.GA28448@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> In-Reply-To: --K7hrkpuBhgxC0n7B8BC1LWQhWNoGloM6M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/04/2016 12:45 AM, J=C3=B6rg Schaible wrote: > -1 >=20 > I'd love to move to grub2 for all of my machines, but it does simply no= t=20 > work for one of my servers. I can install grub2 and it tells me that=20 > installation and anything else went fine, but when I try to boot with i= t, it=20 > stops and reports me that it found some conflicting area in my bios why= it=20 > cannot work (sorry, I tell this from my memory, I've tried it quite som= e=20 > time ago). Mr. Google says that this may happen for some hardware, but = has=20 > no solution to it. Was this ever reported in bugs.gentoo.org? >=20 > So, what are my options (or other people's options with such incompatib= le=20 > hardware) without grub 1? Lilo? Grub could also be an option depending on what version you tried. If you only tested against the stable versions, a second check would be in order as 2.02_beta3-r1 went stable recently. -Nick >=20 > - J=C3=B6rg >=20 >=20 > William Hubbs wrote: >=20 >> All, >> >> I want to look into removing grub:0 from the tree; here are my thought= s >> on why it should go. >> >> - the handbook doesn't document grub:0; we officially only support >> grub:2. >> >> - There are multiple bugs open against grub:0 (15 at my last count). A= >> number of these as I understand it are because of custom patches we >> apply. >> >> - grub:0 can't boot a nomultilib system, so we have to maintain a >> separate package (grub-static) specifically for that setup. >> >> - Removing grub:0 from the tree doesn't stop you from using it. If pe= ople >> really want it I will place it in the graveyard overlay. >> >> - We have custom patches for grub:0, which will never go upstream. >> >> - grub:0 is dead upstream. They have not done any work on it in years.= >> >> - The only real problem with grub:2 has to do with pperception. Yes, >> their documentation has a strong preference toward using their >> configuration script (grub-mkconfig) to generate your grub.cfg, but= >> this is not required. >> >> So, I want to make a plan to lastrite grub:0 and grub-static. >> >> I'm thinking, in about a week, p.mask grub:0 along with grub-static a= nd >> send out a lastrites msg with a 30 day removal notice. >> >> If there any technical objections to this, let me know what they are. >> >> Thanks, >> >> William >=20 >=20 >=20 --K7hrkpuBhgxC0n7B8BC1LWQhWNoGloM6M-- --q18GC3iCMfinwoxm7oeAo8XkFpjbCIb4r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJX86rbAAoJEAQpRPZaa5gqG1MP/2eZQsMjxE/0QXrv2It1V45J 4SjgaDJ4KRXN1VlQTSNuuuV8vesDSPMLoiuworxfpjMAEH/usyb1U/Kpv2G/bTd0 XQ+jwCijPZfomzC5zhW9K2UoFeVkW2bb+dTnfDSusSZTi2Y9EGicoORcYcWp2yp2 9K3gtZiBwCTknuSlZ9LeDKypIsK0Lx+ieKKo24DPPoWpDNrIaupZApusCfCFHsss WhQrS8aJHdr9ttFVzWeZ0Vu+YSZjewBr0ALa3QsicIoL8gxLfgKVKKjXHnZDJEod I5hPifpwVrpwVZZnpAwHcj9CHCTI8TC3ZmtpAFNf4LCiQowCKMKwlFfNQsmwjCv+ NS6xcCBrBCWajA0GUMzLUBvVJA8Ova4wN13JjLPfGU6Iid8KP4IUSuzZR3LMvApp bMxSv1sVxXUTE6C8bMbZRuH3UC4uUerNjwm7UE2S8glSJDWe2TrVN1EemhWbLvVw 0iNKW0sku3SGUfSOdig/o+Qg/TvmmSYGTlMwR1mRsu5rI+VyXz7GzbK+5OM2zq/L VeNICR+qqB7L4Nhp4YC65lNQVX2nr2gpRNWqnNAoU25UUk8n2ObPKZBh7Ury+8a4 DWv9YKVjZySXFpK625VJFXqtUC/7QvssHUpmqv043tFzmnphw88FL76E21HDYqTN 7gI7M9xCXBzVozIaOwy+ =NJ+V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q18GC3iCMfinwoxm7oeAo8XkFpjbCIb4r--