From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmuM2-0002KY-IE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:03:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2A79E09CA; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPaqm2.telefonica.net (impaqm2.telefonica.net [213.4.129.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC27E09CA for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPmailhost3.adm.correo ([10.20.102.124]) by IMPaqm2.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id gJ0r1c05P2h2L9m3MK3Fic; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:03:15 +0200 Received: from jesgue.homelinux.org ([78.136.66.163]) by IMPmailhost3.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id gK3D1c00S3XLmEe1jK3EXH; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:03:15 +0200 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="i92guboj.terra.es" |auth_email="i92guboj@terra.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitera01" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:03:13 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_Guerrero?= To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay usage and maintainence [was: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future] In-Reply-To: <200909132057.48975.patrick@gentoo.org> References: <4AAAD714.1010107@hartwork.org> <4AACCDBF.5020207@gentoo.org> <4AACD7C5.2080703@gentoo.org> <200909132057.48975.patrick@gentoo.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: i92guboj@terra.es User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 49be9005-3252-4f9f-9110-b0e1b15a57d6 X-Archives-Hash: 1366e18d1542823b35c37a5df29acff3 On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: >=20 > First issue: How do I find out in which overlay stuff is? http://gentoo.zapto.org/ > Second issue: "I want foopackage and barpackage, but not your hacked gcc" > Overlays can overshadow tree packages, which can have undesired effects= . Smart overlays shouldn't do that (and if you are using ~arch then it's *your* problem). No one forces you to get the full overlay though. You ca= n put the overlay out of the PORTDIR_OVERLAY, and then just symlink the wanted directories into your PORTDIR_OVERLAY, that way you will get the facilities of layman and the advantage or a greater control. >> With those two sets above removed, overlays would either contain >> breaking >> stuff (playground for devs) or not checked ebuilds from users. For both >> sets, the above ussage with layman should be easy enough. > Indeed. And everything else should go into the tree. > Also, everyone contributing regularly to an overlay (like X-Drum, who has > done=20 > an awesome job at maintaining Virtualbox) should sooner or later be > recruited=20 > to work on the Big Overlay instead. >=20 > Which points at another problem - our recruiting isn't as active as it > should=20 > be. Maybe we should have the Sith rule of gentoo dev'ing ... "Always tw= o > there=20 > are, a master and an apprentice". It should be every dev's goal to have at=20 > least one recruit at most times :) >=20 > Or for those of you too lazy for that - do whatever you can to recruit > your=20 > replacement. Once you've managed that you can be as lazy as you want! Yep. All comes down to the same, lack of man power I think. --=20 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero