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From: "Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@terra.es>
To: <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay usage and maintainence [was: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future]
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:03:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a799eb90775ab356c71eb64481bda4e3@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200909132057.48975.patrick@gentoo.org>

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
wrote:
> 
> First issue: How do I find out in which overlay stuff is?

http://gentoo.zapto.org/

> Second issue: "I want foopackage and barpackage, but not your hacked
gcc"
> Overlays can overshadow tree packages, which can have undesired effects.

Smart overlays shouldn't do that (and if you are using ~arch then it's
*your* problem). No one forces you to get the full overlay though. You can
put the overlay out of the PORTDIR_OVERLAY, and then just symlink the
wanted
directories into your PORTDIR_OVERLAY, that way you will get the
facilities
of layman and the advantage or a greater control.


>>  With those two sets above removed, overlays would either contain
>>  breaking
>>  stuff (playground for devs) or not checked ebuilds from users. For
both
>>  sets, the above ussage with layman should be easy enough.
> Indeed. And everything else should go into the tree.
> Also, everyone contributing regularly to an overlay (like X-Drum, who
has
> done 
> an awesome job at maintaining Virtualbox) should sooner or later be
> recruited 
> to work on the Big Overlay instead.
> 
> Which points at another problem - our recruiting isn't as active as it
> should 
> be. Maybe we should have the Sith rule of gentoo dev'ing ... "Always two
> there 
> are, a master and an apprentice". It should be every dev's goal to have
at 
> least one recruit at most times :)
> 
> Or for those of you too lazy for that - do whatever you can to recruit
> your 
> replacement. Once you've managed that you can be as lazy as you want!

Yep. All comes down to the same, lack of man power I think.
-- 
Jesús Guerrero



  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-13 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11 23:02 [gentoo-dev] DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-12  2:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-09-12 12:15   ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-14  2:46     ` Ryan Hill
2009-09-29  1:08       ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-09-12  4:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Aaron Bauman
2009-09-12 17:26   ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-12 11:23 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-09-12 17:29   ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-13  9:11 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-09-13 10:47   ` Richard Freeman
2009-09-13 10:57     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-09-13 13:24       ` Richard Freeman
2009-09-13 19:39         ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-13 19:38       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-13 11:30     ` [gentoo-dev] overlay usage and maintainence [was: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future] Thomas Sachau
2009-09-13 18:57       ` Patrick Lauer
2009-09-13 19:03         ` Jesús Guerrero [this message]
2009-09-13 19:41           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-09-13 20:04             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-09-13 19:25         ` Alexander Færøy
2009-09-13 19:45           ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-13 20:00             ` Alexander Færøy
2009-09-13 20:02             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-09-13 20:17               ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-14 14:05                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-09-14 18:28                   ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-14 18:51                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-09-14 22:03                     ` Zac Medico
2009-09-16 20:31                       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-16 21:21                         ` Zac Medico
2009-09-13 13:59   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future Duncan
2009-09-13 14:36     ` Dale
2009-09-13 15:05       ` Albert Hopkins
2009-09-13 15:45         ` Dale
2009-09-13 19:52           ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-13 21:25             ` Dale
2009-09-13 21:54               ` Alex Legler
2009-09-13 22:08                 ` Dale
2009-09-13 22:53                   ` Alex Legler
2009-09-13 23:06                     ` Dale
2009-09-13 20:00     ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-09-20 19:12       ` Duncan
2009-09-21  2:10         ` Angelo Arrifano

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