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From: james <garftd@verizon.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:44:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6886f2e-7f44-ffe9-9bea-d2468fe1f3e1@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160807140904.GA4941@daphne>

On 08/07/2016 09:09 AM, Consus wrote:
> On 08:24 Sun 07 Aug, james wrote:
>> On 08/07/2016 02:38 AM, Consus wrote:
>>> On 08:48 Sun 07 Aug, Michał Górny wrote:
>>>> Sure we do. In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because it
>>>> still can't deal with accepting contributions and in the meantime the
>>>> few last developers retired, and users long ago switched to the
>>>> comparatively recent distribution of Debian stable.
>>>
>>> Finally the voice of reason.
>>
>> Reasonable?  Are you kidding?
>> <rolling on the floor with laughter, uncontrollably >
>>
>> In this day and age, quick installs are the mantra, either for VMs or
>> containers or workstations, particularly for application-specific-servers or
>> a variety of security apparatus. Although the 'handbook' is an excellent
>> reference guide and noob-filter, the simple fact of the matter is most (nix)
>> professionals consider the gentoo install system to be arcane and an
>> incredible 'cost barrier to entry'. THAT, the lack of a well thought out,
>> smooth, quick/easy install which is intentionally not  available, because it
>> is seen as a satanic idea, is the 800 pound gorilla on why folks
>> passionately avoid gentoo.....
>
> Err... On that one I agree. How the hell does it change the fact that
> GitHub improved contributions?

Ok, so I should have prune the post to focus my response::

"In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because"

My response is not about github, the past or the future of the Version 
Control, Contributions or such, espoused by github.

My responses are to why such a mature and wonderful distro, Gentoo 
specifically, is suffering::"nobody uses gentoo anymore". And in fact I 
mildly questioned if that is the case. I think we all agree that there 
is some mistery as to why gentoo is not grower more attractive, to folks 
not using gentoo, at a faster rate with greater uptake on a permanent 
commitment to gentoo (if I may politely be so bold?).

Git hub is fine. Sure, I'd like to see the tree run on something 
opensource, but, github is fine, for now. ymmv. The future, who knows.


hth,
James


  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-07 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-06 14:39 [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs Felix Janda
2016-08-06 16:04 ` Peter Stuge
2016-08-06 16:22   ` Michał Górny
2016-08-06 19:28     ` Peter Stuge
2016-08-06 20:47       ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-06 20:55         ` Michał Górny
2016-08-06 22:32           ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-06 21:12       ` Peter Stuge
2016-08-07  6:48         ` Michał Górny
2016-08-07  7:38           ` Consus
2016-08-07 13:24             ` james
2016-08-07 13:32               ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-07 14:06                 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-08-07 14:46                   ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2016-08-07 17:36                   ` james
2016-08-07 20:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-08-07 20:48                       ` Patrick Lauer
2016-08-07 22:29                         ` james
2016-08-07 21:49                       ` james
2016-08-08  3:22                         ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-08  5:26                           ` james
2016-08-08  4:33                             ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-08  5:43                               ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-07 17:24                 ` james
2016-08-07 16:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-08-07 17:59                     ` james
2016-08-07 16:55                   ` Easy Installs / Stage 4 ( Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs ) Kent Fredric
2016-08-07 19:57                     ` james
2016-08-08  5:14                       ` Jason Zaman
2016-08-07 14:09               ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs Consus
2016-08-07 17:44                 ` james [this message]
2016-08-07 14:47               ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-07 17:47                 ` james
2016-08-07 17:49                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-07 19:33                     ` james
2016-08-07  4:04       ` Kent Fredric
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-10 13:12 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2018-03-10 23:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-04-27 10:58 [gentoo-dev] " Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-06-28  9:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-03-26 19:50 [gentoo-dev] " aidecoe
2017-03-27  8:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Marek Szuba
2016-08-07  9:26 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2016-08-07 15:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2016-06-02 15:42 [gentoo-dev] " james
2016-06-03 17:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin Bronder
2016-06-03 18:41   ` james
2014-11-24  1:17 [gentoo-dev] " hasufell
2014-11-24  3:08 ` Daniel Campbell
2014-11-26  9:15   ` Yixun Lan
2014-11-27  9:51     ` Daniel Campbell
2014-12-03 16:34       ` [gentoo-dev] " Harvey
2014-12-04  6:17         ` Daniel Campbell
2014-11-11 14:59 [gentoo-dev] " Pavlos Ratis
2014-11-14  3:02 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-12-01 11:00   ` Pacho Ramos
2015-01-07 14:06     ` Pacho Ramos
2015-01-08  1:29       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-01-08  9:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-01-08 10:12           ` Duncan
2013-06-16 10:03 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16 10:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16  9:49 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16 12:48 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-06-16 13:55   ` Brian Dolbec
2013-06-16 14:44     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 17:09       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-06-16 17:21         ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16 18:23           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 19:33             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-06-16 19:43               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-16 21:24               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 21:38                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-06-16 22:07                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 22:20                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-06-24 15:27                 ` Duncan
2013-06-24 23:18                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-25  6:16                     ` Duncan
2013-06-16  9:31 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16 12:19 ` gmt
2013-06-16 12:27   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-16 13:02     ` gmt
2013-06-16 13:22       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-01-20 10:30 [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-01-20 19:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Gilbert
2012-03-01 22:17 [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2012-03-06  4:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2011-01-06 12:17 [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2011-01-06 12:32 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-01-12  9:24   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2011-01-06 17:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2011-01-07  8:49   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2011-01-07 16:39     ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-01-07 18:57       ` Christian Faulhammer
2010-10-10 14:45 [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2010-10-10 16:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
2010-10-12  0:52   ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-10-12  6:01     ` Duncan
2010-10-12 17:17       ` Tomás Touceda
2009-02-11 18:02 [gentoo-dev] " Santiago M. Mola
2009-02-12  3:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-10-31 20:42 [gentoo-dev] packages " Daniel Drake
2008-11-09  8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-07-20  6:44 [gentoo-dev] Packages " Christian Faulhammer
2008-07-20 17:01 ` Alexis Ballier
2008-07-21  6:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-07-20 18:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Anderson
2008-07-21  6:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-05-31  5:09 [gentoo-dev] packages " Mike Frysinger
2008-05-31  8:05 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-05-31  9:13   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2008-05-31 14:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2008-05-31 17:04   ` Thilo Bangert
2008-05-31 17:05     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ali Polatel
2008-05-31 15:33 ` Ali Polatel
2008-06-02 14:57 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-02 19:47 ` Gunnar Wrobel
2008-06-02 20:45   ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-02 23:59     ` Joe Peterson
2008-05-28  7:03 [gentoo-dev] Packages " Krzysiek Pawlik
2008-06-05 20:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2007-12-25 18:19 [gentoo-dev] " Christian Heim
2007-12-26 10:16 ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2007-12-26 15:39   ` [gentoo-dev] " Bernd Steinhauser
2008-01-24 15:30 ` Ali Polatel
2007-09-05 17:15 [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2007-09-05 17:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer

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