From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC8D158091 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56A10E086D; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D51F3E07EA for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 11:30:59 +0200 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.10.0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM Content-Language: en-US To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20220613074411.341909-1-flow@gentoo.org> From: Florian Schmaus In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 807cf91d-2668-4421-a98b-5d8660b3d464 X-Archives-Hash: e3a8ce32c7ae6819c4dac0be8dfc419f On 13/06/2022 10.29, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 09:44 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> Judging from the gentoo-dev@ mailing list discussion [1] about EGO_SUM, >> where some voices where in agreement that EGO_SUM has its raison d'être, >> while there where no arguments in favor of eventually removing EGO_SUM, >> I hereby propose to undeprecate EGO_SUM. >> >> 1: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/1a64a8e7694c3ee11cd48a58a95f2faa >> > > "We've been rehashing the discussion until all opposition got tired > and stopped replying, then we claim everyone agrees". I understand this comment so that there was already a discussion about deprecating and removing EGO_SUM. I usually try to follow what's going on Gentoo and I remember the discussion about introducing dependency tarballs. But I apparently have missed the part where EGO_SUM was slated for removal. And it appears I am not the only one, at least Ionen also wrote "Missed bits and pieces but was never quite sure why this went toward full deprecation, just discouraged may have been fair enough, …". In any case, I am sorry for bringing this discussion up again. But since I started rehashing this, no arguments why EGO_SUM should be removed have been provided. And so far, I failed to find the old discussions where I'd hope to find some rationale behind the deprecation of EGO_SUM. :/ - Flow