* [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers
@ 2021-12-19 10:57 Anna “CyberTailor”
2021-12-20 0:18 ` Jonas Stein
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Anna “CyberTailor” @ 2021-12-19 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gentoo-dev
Hello, list.
I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru
overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger,
Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.
"The net-servers category contains servers for miscellaneous network
protocols."
Some candidates for new category are:
[N] net-misc/arpd (0.2-r1): ARP server claiming all unassigned addresses (for network monitoring/simulation)
[I] net-misc/fakeidentd (2.6-r1@18.07.2021): A static, secure identd. One source file only!
[N] net-misc/geomyidae ((~)0.34-r1): A daemon to serve the gopher protocol
[N] net-misc/gofish (1.2-r1): Gofish gopher server
[N] net-misc/midentd ((~)2.3.1-r2): ident daemon with masquerading and fake replies support
[N] net-misc/netkit-bootparamd (0.17-r4): Netkit - bootparamd
[N] net-misc/netkit-routed (--): Netkit - routed
[I] net-misc/netkit-talk (0.17-r7@29.08.2021): Netkit - talkd
[N] net-misc/netkit-timed (0.17-r10): Netkit - timed
[N] net-misc/oidentd (3.0.0-r1): Another (RFC1413 compliant) ident daemon
[N] net-misc/sgopherd ((~)18.08): Small Gopher Server written in GNU Bash
[N] net-misc/utelnetd ((~)0.1.11-r2): A small Telnet daemon, derived from the Axis tools
[I] net-misc/x2goserver (4.1.0.3-r1@24.05.2021): The X2Go server
I also consider creating net-client category just for ::guru since there
are many gemini/gopher browsers.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers
2021-12-19 10:57 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers Anna “CyberTailor”
@ 2021-12-20 0:18 ` Jonas Stein
2021-12-20 7:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-12-20 8:05 ` Anna “CyberTailor”
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jonas Stein @ 2021-12-20 0:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gentoo-dev
Hi,
> I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru
> overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
> better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger,
> Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.
all servers without www servers means, we should move
ssh, imap, pop, mysql... there too
I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.
--
Best,
Jonas
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers
2021-12-20 0:18 ` Jonas Stein
@ 2021-12-20 7:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-12-20 8:05 ` Anna “CyberTailor”
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2021-12-20 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonas Stein; +Cc: gentoo-dev
>>>>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021, Jonas Stein wrote:
>> I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru
>> overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
>> better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger,
>> Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.
> all servers without www servers means, we should move
> ssh, imap, pop, mysql... there too
I tend to disagree. Anything specific should stay in its category, e.g.
FTP servers in net-ftp, IRC servers in net-irc.
> I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.
I wonder if "servers" is a good category, in the first place. A server
can be for anything.
Ulrich
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers
2021-12-20 0:18 ` Jonas Stein
2021-12-20 7:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2021-12-20 8:05 ` Anna “CyberTailor”
2021-12-20 12:23 ` Jonas Stein
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Anna “CyberTailor” @ 2021-12-20 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gentoo-dev
On 2021-12-20 01:18, Jonas Stein wrote:
> I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.
"servers for miscellaneous application-level network protocols"?
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers
2021-12-20 8:05 ` Anna “CyberTailor”
@ 2021-12-20 12:23 ` Jonas Stein
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jonas Stein @ 2021-12-20 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gentoo-dev
On 20/12/2021 09.05, Anna “CyberTailor” wrote:
> On 2021-12-20 01:18, Jonas Stein wrote:
>> I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.
>
> "servers for miscellaneous application-level network protocols"?
sounds like server-misc/* what is the benefit?
https://xkcd.com/1077/
I do not think this is a good idea.
Categories should be as sharp and clear as possible.
--
Best,
Jonas
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