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[97.139.114.161]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u5-20020a1709060b0500b00988e953a586sm3290305ejg.61.2023.09.15.23.01.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 01:01:03 -0500 From: Oskari Pirhonen To: Dale Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, sam@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Dale , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, sam@gentoo.org References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <7B549F95-5EEA-4DD3-A046-AA6F2C7B6349@gentoo.org> <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <6e35ba9b-a55b-4b36-9d79-96faa5fb1dc6@gentoo.org> <2647445b-bd37-0d70-a9a0-a9fe085235b0@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nWncOfn0tNMHCjP+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2647445b-bd37-0d70-a9a0-a9fe085235b0@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 9d374004-23f7-4033-bc2d-2a8ccc21a140 X-Archives-Hash: 41302ffcc14f06374519ee269d6d9f40 --nWncOfn0tNMHCjP+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 03:10:51 -0500, Dale wrote: > Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: > > > > And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed > > the news item? They are displayed quite prominently I think, and > > emerge will keep buggering you about it until it is marked as read. > > Just wondering if there is something that can be improved here. > > > > Best regards, > > Andrew >=20 >=20 > I'm pretty good at reading the news items.=C2=A0 I seem to recall that you > see one only if it affects you, you have a package installed or > something.=C2=A0 So, if it shows up, it is best to take notice.=C2=A0 Tha= t said, I > don't recall seeing the news item either.=C2=A0 I can't imagine me missin= g it > but I also can't imagine me not taking action either. After all, (eu)dev > is a important package.=C2=A0 >=20 > One thing is for sure, the name is rather obvious.=C2=A0 The first word in > the title is eudev.=C2=A0 I have yet to figure out how I missed it.=C2=A0= Given > the number of people who did, could there have been a glitch and it > didn't show for some weird reason?=C2=A0 Has someone who understands the = code > checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most > users?=C2=A0 >=20 > I do think this is worth looking into.=C2=A0 It just seems odd.=C2=A0 >=20 It's not impossible for a news item to have bugs. Somewhat recently, when the hardened toolchain changes were being made, a news item was sent out recommending an `-e @world`. I knew it was coming because I saw the drafts of the news item here (as well as discussion on irc), so I was surprised when I didn't see it on my laptop on the day of. But I did see it on my work machine. We managed to track it down to my work machine using the hardened profile whereas my laptop is using the hardened/selinux profile, and Portage didn't quite catch that as being relevant for both. - Oskari --nWncOfn0tNMHCjP+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYIAB0WIQQfOU+JeXjo4uxN6vCp8he9GGIfEQUCZQVElgAKCRCp8he9GGIf ERb/AP9Yu+E0UH8jIZec+U1o54AqJy3NKkGN3z/BTBCj2H/DXgEAxtQZMChaenEM qPqTOtlScQd31Kf1byuKTK7s6D8k9w8= =uvRH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nWncOfn0tNMHCjP+--