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From: Tim Harder <radhermit@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2023 01:13:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKPGmnpfl9XJY0R0@fir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52703145-a284-30f3-aac8-69ed086a5f4a@gentoo.org>

On 2023-07-03 Mon 04:17, Florian Schmaus wrote:
>On 30/06/2023 13.33, Eray Aslan wrote:
>>On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 03:38:11AM -0600, Tim Harder wrote:
>>>Why do we have to keep exporting the related variables that generally
>>>cause these size issues to the environment?
>>
>>I really do not want to make a +1 response but this is an excellent
>>question that we need to answer before implementing EGO_SUM.
>
>Could you please discuss why you make the reintroduction of EGO_SUM 
>dependent on this question?

Just to be clear, I don't particularly care about EGO_SUM enough to gate
its reintroduction (and don't have any leverage to do so anyway). I'm
just tired of the circular discussions around env issues that all seem
to avoid actual fixes, catering instead to functionality used by a
vanishingly small subset of ebuilds in the main repo that compels a
certain design mostly due to how portage functioned before EAPI 0.

Other than that, supporting EGO_SUM (or any other language ecosystem
trending towards distro-unfriendly releases) is fine as long as devs are
cognizant how the related global-scope eclass design affects everyone
running or working on the raw repo. I hope devs continue leveraging the
relatively recent benchmark tooling (and perhaps more future support) to
improve their work. Along those lines, it could be nice to see sample
benchmark data in commit messages for large, global-scope eclass work
just to reinforce that it was taken into account.

Tim


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-04  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <be450641-94ff-a0d9-51da-3a7a3abcc6c7@gentoo.org>
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2023-06-30  8:15       ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.) Florian Schmaus
2023-06-30  8:22         ` Sam James
2023-06-30  9:38           ` Tim Harder
2023-06-30 11:33             ` Eray Aslan
2023-07-03 10:17               ` Florian Schmaus
2023-07-04  7:13                 ` Tim Harder [this message]
2023-07-04 10:44                   ` Gerion Entrup
2023-07-04 21:56                     ` Robin H. Johnson
2023-07-04 23:09                       ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-07-05 18:40                         ` Gerion Entrup
2023-07-05 19:32                           ` Rich Freeman
2023-07-06  2:48                           ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-07-06  6:09                   ` Zoltan Puskas
2023-07-06 19:46                     ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open Hank Leininger
2023-07-08 20:49                     ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.) Sam James
2023-07-03 10:17           ` Florian Schmaus
2023-07-03 11:12             ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-08 21:21             ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.) Sam James
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     [not found]       ` <1913d3c2-5f54-acea-0ed3-930371ea1884@gentoo.org>
     [not found]         ` <CAAr7Pr9+zq2NV=7zhj5e+4LWOmNavCrfMstNTqkthk5uxQVNtg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-14  7:14           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees (was: " Florian Schmaus
2023-07-14  7:33             ` Sam James
2023-07-14  8:19               ` Sam James
2023-07-14  9:07               ` Florian Schmaus
2023-07-14  8:39             ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees Ulrich Mueller

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