From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E77915808B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84438E08F4; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CB52E087A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:00:23 -0600 From: John Helmert III To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman Message-ID: References: <1918818.8hb0ThOEGa@pinacolada> <7666f6e9-f54f-3a19-42cf-47b2cc8c96fd@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j0MDsqJ+obCnGWcN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7666f6e9-f54f-3a19-42cf-47b2cc8c96fd@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: bc6ddcfd-99d6-4538-bc5d-cde9880d3481 X-Archives-Hash: 31bcdbd224ec26ba52f2749c1930489a --j0MDsqJ+obCnGWcN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 04:53:10PM -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 3/10/2022 14:44, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >>> > >>> I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm > >>> personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here. > >> > >> First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subje= ctive > >> opinion of "I think is superior" ... > >=20 > > Well, if you've ever tried it you'll notice that for !=3D r= epoman > > actually finishes the checks within a finite amount of time. Kind of, t= he=20 > > most blatant argument for ditching repoman, actually. >=20 > If this is a concern for some, has anyone looked into whether repoman can= be > fixed to be more efficient? If so, how was the determination made that it > cannot be fixed and instead, needs to be replaced? It's been around for = 20+ > years. Surely someone has gotten annoyed enough to look at any issues it > has and attempt to fix them? It's slow enough that Gentoo CI [1] uses pkgcheck to be remotely useful. [1] https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/gentoo-ci/output.html > That said, I'm not terribly bothered by it. It is slow, don't get me wro= ng, > but it's not slow enough that my workflow is significantly impacted. It > catches most of the mistakes I've ever made before I make them so that I = can > fix them. For me, that's job well done. >=20 > --=20 > Joshua Kinard > Gentoo/MIPS > kumba@gentoo.org > rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 > 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 >=20 > "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. A= nd > our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-bet= ween." >=20 > --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic >=20 --j0MDsqJ+obCnGWcN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEElFuPenBj6NvNLoABXP0dAeB+IzgFAmIqdPIACgkQXP0dAeB+ Izh3Og//RkdQevjnZckfqSiS1V1+RZtyIOgLLAXZrb4AIZ95sHSTEbaEXPW82fdX 1prNIYHA19f7U47JG83TxbUkXguyKO0d7y6hIuMHSV3eBLL2TMnfYVuc/tbPtIpl pUH4gVg/JO9Tf8Prz2/sxELJ+5WfoBnoaFHyc5sy7j/KlSwddIurcYfENoHmEt7/ A/t/UuQRD2MDUH1I5TDDmY3Uq/3J/TTAYmhKuoZ58pJXSJFhBOAaoOyoLKvenD52 iL6mdKXEMf3i/RqI0hO5d3LwL+XTeat4JtSC1ArPB9X3Kh54Rhn9i8q0u3iYW5gS ujgmt40MJ6f5oUJvSj6LLWqs+EFWezhP2YpZjKIyiuf3PEOb9iXcyNnzD81vDXFn DnrkHXrRlGJEKoZzK21JJnO3YKUn4ECtPVxQn64baNru1ONiTsfv6ivgnGdHTIlW tmiaOMFeLFwKnUepqFKcb6GiwZgVpULXoJmTQGV53O89PjhBULhdy8oMmAQgyE5O 9x11QKf/gzXmj4m9zEix9EH8vzuAjy0v6ilVJAEHteL9olCVSgM6BNhl+BeILOcJ oJMi/1SWuJndTslwex0ZsXj/54dsleX4CTUAPpeuJkJRwMqgpBhlLOEe6a8rGnsi 7BGqbK+aIxdQWCAyc/8/0PegLGudqM+mO5I3ae5ycIEk9lOm0CY= =Mgv8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j0MDsqJ+obCnGWcN--