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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:06:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <U4KAFFWycGbudjzLcKTNh/@yP8TkUxpwNkHElhhdWKKA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180623085550.ucvzlz26riiniwej@proprietary-killer> (from hanetzer@startmail.com on Sat Jun 23 09:55:53 2018)

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On 2018.06.23 09:55, Marty E. Plummer wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:15:06AM +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
> > On 23/06/2018 09:43, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> > > But how would it serve gentoo itself? Lots of packages in the
> distro
> > > have dead upstream but still work.
> > > Why would you want to make gentoo an upstream area rather than
> moving a
> > > dead project itself, say,
> > > to github and do the job there?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > I like the idea of taking responsibility for the abandoned packages
> that
> > are still useful.
> > 
> > It's probably not Gentoo-specific, so a distro-neutral way of
> handling
> > that seems most appropriate.
> > 
> > It may even be worth it to coordinate with other distros (and maybe
> > downstreams) so that the new version becomes a standard.
> > 
> > Finally, having more than one person on this (to help continuity),
> and a
> > common platform like GitHub also seem very helpful.
> > 
> > Paweł
> > 
> Agreed in general; the problem is getting it started at all; difficult
> to get other distros to join if there is nothing to join.
> 
> 
> 

A couple of generalisations.

The first solution to unmaintained packages should be to move to an 
alternative, if that's possible. Gentoo does not have the resource
to be upstream for very much for the entire Linux community, a point
already made by others.

In volunteer groups things get done by those who want to do them.
Others join later. I think the quote I'm looking for is "Build it and they 
will come".

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-23 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-23  2:50 [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs Marty E. Plummer
2018-06-23  2:57 ` Marty E. Plummer
2018-06-23 13:05   ` Jonas Stein
2018-08-05 16:55     ` Richard Yao
2018-06-23  7:22 ` Michał Górny
2018-06-23  7:30   ` Marty E. Plummer
2018-06-23  7:37     ` Michał Górny
2018-06-23 10:59     ` Alec Warner
2018-08-05 16:45       ` Richard Yao
2018-08-05 17:01         ` Alec Warner
2018-08-05 17:16           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-08-05 17:24           ` Rich Freeman
2018-08-05 17:31             ` M. J. Everitt
2018-08-05 18:12             ` Richard Yao
2018-08-05 18:35               ` Rich Freeman
2018-08-05 20:49                 ` Richard Yao
2018-08-05 18:06           ` Richard Yao
2018-06-23  7:43 ` Mikle Kolyada
2018-06-23  8:15   ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-06-23  8:55     ` Marty E. Plummer
2018-06-23 11:06       ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2018-06-23 23:52 ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-25  5:59 ` Hanno Böck
2018-06-27  0:03   ` Marty E. Plummer
2018-08-04  8:43   ` mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs) Andrew Savchenko
2018-08-04  9:51     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: mcrypt status Martin Vaeth
2018-08-04 10:22       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-08-04 14:29     ` mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs) Hanno Böck
2018-08-04 15:25       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-08-05  4:57       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-08-04 18:05     ` Marty E. Plummer
2018-08-04 19:22       ` Andrew Savchenko

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