From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN, DMARC_MISSING,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from hitchcock.woahnelly.net (unknown [66.65.19.151]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A075ABB81 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:57:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by hitchcock.woahnelly.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4B293021; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hitchcock.woahnelly.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D6301C; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:57:48 -0400 (EDT) From: wes chow To: Paul de Vrieze Cc: "gentoo-dev@gentoo.org" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper Gentoo Name (was License criteria for Gentoo) In-Reply-To: <200209252105.18798.pauldv@cs.kun.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: cae672cd-18fd-4624-a735-a08f18a128a1 X-Archives-Hash: bf16723754a626f3ace690088fdda31b > > The car analogy isn't so useful becuase it's important that we do what's > > right, not that we do what already has a precedent. Gentoo is Portage. > > Portage needs GNU utilities like a fish needs a bicycle. > > > > No, gentoo is as much portage as Redhat is rpm. If that were the case SUSE and > Redhat would be the same, as they are both rpm based. Good point... here's the subtle difference that I overlooked: Gentoo is Portage plus a collection of ebuilds. The analogy, then, is that RedHat and SuSE use the same distribution method (RPMs), but consist of packages built by a different group of people. (note, I have zero experience with SuSE, so I could be far off the mark) Thus, if you rip out Portage and start your own collection of ebuilds, you will no longer have a Gentoo system. I think this is a resonable distinction, because a different group of developers would manage that collection and have its own set of bugs and userbase and file layout, etc. A distribution is a collection or package of software. I don't see why the contents of any package should dictate the name of that package. I don't follow that logic. Wes