From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27529 invoked by uid 1002); 18 Apr 2003 14:55:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 2451 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2003 14:55:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:54:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeff Rose To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20030418093550.GF2114@firinn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer X-Archives-Salt: 676105a6-7929-47aa-a1ca-ec77fb94c534 X-Archives-Hash: d02b6207a8758d3f2db23262624d1e54 No problem then. Don't work on it. -Jeff On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Mark Bainter wrote: > Jeff Rose [rosejn@Colorado.EDU] wrote: > > Well, I'm glad to see that people are interested. After doing some > > initial research I have some thoughts. First, we should decide on whether > > we want to have a terminal or X based installer. Does anyone know how > > You know. I'm sooooooooooooo tired of this topic. Is there > any way we can get this added to the FAQ, with maybe a link > to the oh, 20 or 30 threads about this that have popped up > already on this list? > > While it won't stop everyone, more people read FAQs than > search mailing lists before posting I'm sure. At least it'd > cut it down a little right? > > > well the generic vesa driver works for X? I personally have battled with > > X so many times that I'm not sure I think its worth it for an installer. > > No. It isn't. But not because of battling with it, but because > once you do it you instantly bloat the size of the install CD. > > Thanks, but no thanks. -blech- > > > (Although we could just use the RedHat stuff for autodetection etc. if we > > want to go that direction.) Besides X we could use ncurses dialog > > widgets or another terminal gui package. I was thinking it would be cool > > to use somethine lighter than X like svgalib. I have no experience with > > Ok, I'm going to summarize my opinion on this into just a short > blurb. I'm sorry for not being more verbose, but I just went > through all this not more than a couple weeks ago. > > A GUI installer lowers the bar for entry on gentoo. Right now > many people who might want to use Gentoo, but are yet ready for > it do not attempt to use it because the install holds the bar > too high. That's a good thing. If we lower the bar so anyone's > grandma can install Gentoo, anyone's grandma will be flooding > the gentoo lists and forums with worthless questions that should > not need to be asked by someone using Gentoo. > > Gentoo is not a newbie distribution, and putting a pretty > installer on the front of it, regardless of its flexibility, > presents a representation of the skill level required to > use and maintain it. > > So, once again, I vote NO on a GUI installer. > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list