Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[Pete Gavin]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:16:51PM -0000, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> Hi,
>     I installed Gentoo Linux a few days ago on my WinME, and NT system and now my computer is almost unusable because of a stupid mistake I made. Installing from floppy, I think I installed grub on the (hd0,0) instead of (hd0). HD0, 0 is the WinME partition.  As a result, it has overwritten the NT Loader which used to boot WinME and NT. Now I can boot Gentoo, but not the other OSes. I tried to install grub again on the (hd0,0) but now it refuses to do it.My question is, is there any way of getting the installation back without reinstalling NT?

Sorry, I can't really help you with this, since I don't know much of
anything about WinNT. But, I would guess that there is a way to install
the bootloader over again, unless microsoft is stupider than I
thought... But next time, install the grub to (hd0), and grub will be
your default bootloader; then you can add an entry to menu.lst which
points to the winnt bootloader partition, and you'll get the winnt boot
menu.

>     Also, I am unable to decompress the stuff in the packages directory on the CD as they seem to be corrupt. Did nobody else come across this? I got the rc4_pre2 cd a couple of days after it was released.
>     I hope I was able to explain my situation. I will appreciate your help.

The packages are all tbz2 files, which means they are compressed w/
bzip2. You should use tar xjf rather than tar xzf to decompress them;
if you're just trying to install the packages, use portage-merge
<packagename>.tbz2 instead.

Pete
<pete@gentoo.org>

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[drobbins]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:16:51PM -0000, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> Hi,

>     I installed Gentoo Linux a few days ago on my WinME, and NT system and
>     now my computer is almost unusable because of a stupid mistake I made.
>     Installing from floppy, I think I installed grub on the (hd0,0) instead
>     of (hd0). HD0, 0 is the WinME partition.  As a result, it has overwritten
>     the NT Loader which used to boot WinME and NT. Now I can boot Gentoo, but
>     not the other OSes. I tried to install grub again on the (hd0,0) but now
>     it refuses to do it.My question is, is there any way of getting the
>     installation back without reinstalling NT?

First, is it possible that you followed the instructions perfectly but still had
this problem?  If so, then either ME or NT should be bootable (most likely ME will
work, but not NT).  Try using the chainloader command with GRUB to boot your ME
partition:

grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> chainloader +1
grub> boot

Try this on your NT partition as well.  If both boot, you can make menu entries
for them in your menu.lst file.  If one works (I'm guessing ME) then add that
one to you menu.lst.  Then, post back here and we'll try to get the NT loader
reinstalled.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
President/CEO					http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[drobbins]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:42:17AM -0700, Pete Gavin wrote:
> >     Also, I am unable to decompress the stuff in the packages directory on
> >     the CD as they seem to be corrupt. Did nobody else come across this? I
> >     got the rc4_pre2 cd a couple of days after it was released.  I hope I
> >     was able to explain my situation. I will appreciate your help.

> The packages are all tbz2 files, which means they are compressed w/
> bzip2. You should use tar xjf rather than tar xzf to decompress them;
> if you're just trying to install the packages, use portage-merge
> <packagename>.tbz2 instead.

Actually, "pkgmerge" is the command he should be using.  Maybe I need to update
the docs :/ :)

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
President/CEO					http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[Abhishek Kumar]

Thanks for your help guys, but I have tried this. The first one:
grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> chainloader +1
grub> boot

does not work as this sends me to the faulty grub installation (on the
hd0,0 - one beneath the correct one) and grub can't find the first stage
files. I need to delete this one on the first partition and reload the NT
loader here.

The second one:
grub> root (hd0,1)
grub> chainloader +1
grub> boot

does not work as nt cant find the ntloader.
    I think it was completely may fault though. I did not have the grub
installation instructions then.
Thank for your help. I did not mean to imply that the instructions were at
fault. Keep up the good work.
Abhishek.

----- Original Message -----
From: <drobbins@gentoo.org>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem


> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:16:51PM -0000, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> >     I installed Gentoo Linux a few days ago on my WinME, and NT system
and
> >     now my computer is almost unusable because of a stupid mistake I
made.
> >     Installing from floppy, I think I installed grub on the (hd0,0)
instead
> >     of (hd0). HD0, 0 is the WinME partition.  As a result, it has
overwritten
> >     the NT Loader which used to boot WinME and NT. Now I can boot
Gentoo, but
> >     not the other OSes. I tried to install grub again on the (hd0,0) but
now
> >     it refuses to do it.My question is, is there any way of getting the
> >     installation back without reinstalling NT?
>
> First, is it possible that you followed the instructions perfectly but
still had
> this problem?  If so, then either ME or NT should be bootable (most likely
ME will
> work, but not NT).  Try using the chainloader command with GRUB to boot
your ME
> partition:
>
> grub> root (hd0,0)
> grub> chainloader +1
> grub> boot
>
> Try this on your NT partition as well.  If both boot, you can make menu
entries
> for them in your menu.lst file.  If one works (I'm guessing ME) then add
that
> one to you menu.lst.  Then, post back here and we'll try to get the NT
loader
> reinstalled.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> --
> Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org>
> President/CEO http://www.gentoo.org
> Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
>

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[Abhishek Kumar]

I have tried 'tar xjvf ' and pkgmerge too. It is the files in the /packages
directory of the cd that seem to be corrupt. Running file on them says data
file instead of compressed bzip2 file as it should. The sys.tbz2 file is OK.

Abhishek.
----- Original Message -----
From: <drobbins@gentoo.org>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem


> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:42:17AM -0700, Pete Gavin wrote:
> > >     Also, I am unable to decompress the stuff in the packages
directory on
> > >     the CD as they seem to be corrupt. Did nobody else come across
this? I
> > >     got the rc4_pre2 cd a couple of days after it was released.  I
hope I
> > >     was able to explain my situation. I will appreciate your help.
>
> > The packages are all tbz2 files, which means they are compressed w/
> > bzip2. You should use tar xjf rather than tar xzf to decompress them;
> > if you're just trying to install the packages, use portage-merge
> > <packagename>.tbz2 instead.
>
> Actually, "pkgmerge" is the command he should be using.  Maybe I need to
update
> the docs :/ :)
>
> --
> Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org>
> President/CEO http://www.gentoo.org
> Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
>

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[drobbins]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 07:07:32PM -0000, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> The second one:
> grub> root (hd0,1)
> grub> chainloader +1
> grub> boot

> does not work as nt cant find the ntloader.  I think it was completely may
> fault though. I did not have the grub installation instructions then.  Thank
> for your help. I did not mean to imply that the instructions were at fault.
> Keep up the good work.  Abhishek.

OK, I just didn't know how much diagnosis you did already.  I know that under
DOS, you can type "fdisk /mbr" to zap the master boot record and replace it
with the standard DOS/95/98/ME one, but I don't know how you'd zap the boot
record on the partition rather than the MBR.

Check out the http://www.myshed.net/ site, they have 95/98/ME/NT/2000 boot disks
over there so you can at least boot into your Windows partitions for the time
being.  Also, somewhere (haven't found it yet) on the Microsoft Knowledge Base,
there *is* detailed information on the NT boot loader and how to reinstall it
on to a partition or disk.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
President/CEO					http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub problem

[Bob Collins]

First a question. Did you make a recent ERD under NT? If so, you can use
the 3 boot floppies for NT, or boot from CD, and repair the NT install.
Repair is an option, and it will repair your boot sector. You can skip
all the other options, being you only need to repair the boot. Once you
repair it, you may have to rebuild your boot.ini file, but that is
trivial.

Try your boot floppies and Emergency Repair Disk first.

Email me direct if you need more help.


Bob Collins, MCSE, but a FreeBSD fanatic and Linux Lover!!!
At least the $10K of classes, books, and testing paid off. ;-)
-- 
  Bob  Collins  |    "It has been wisely noted that the
 'where did the |  best and first president of this nation
 last 86400 go' | was the only one who did not want the job."
 FreeBSD Power  |     Ret. Colonel Jeff Cooper, 2001.

[gentoo-dev] grub problem

[Burton Samograd]

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Hi,

I'm trying to get grub setup a new kernel i just compiled but
something is going wrong.  I do what i normally do, but now instead of
working grub is getting killed after running the setup command.

Here's the command output:

GRUB  version 0.90  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

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grub> root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> setup (hd0)Killed

Any ideas what the problem might be?

burton

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