From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWxAK-00051o-Ax for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:12:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2886E06D0; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DC5E06D0 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.21.4.243] (mnit.ac.in [210.212.97.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7E0663CD for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: From: Anant Narayanan To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080301103002.A2AE266A22@smtp.gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:41:58 +0530 References: <20080301103002.A2AE266A22@smtp.gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Archives-Salt: 41fd7d40-f5d7-49f1-a807-c057a5b6e008 X-Archives-Hash: fc286dce70714eadbb02e00d44f04944 Hi, > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole > Gentoo dev list to see. If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd like to discuss the possibility of including a new "post" in our developer base - the package maintainer. a) The requirements to become a package maintainer for Gentoo may be lesser than that of the full-fledged developer. This serves a couple of purposes: - Users might become more motivated to becoming a maintainer for Gentoo, since it would require less time and effort from their end - Might reduce the number of orphaned packages we have in the tree b) Some existing developers might want to switch to this post, if they feel that package maintenance is all they really want to do with Gentoo. This has the advantage of requiring lesser time from their side, while not feeling the pressure of being "responsible". We already have arch-testers, so this will fit in nicely with our current development model. c) The actual developer post may be taken up by existing developers who make wide-ranging or significant changes to Gentoo, as a whole. Examples include: package manager development, eclasses, documentation; basically anything that would require a GLEP or commit access to the whole tree - you get the idea. Some of you may argue that we already have proxy-maintainers. That's a great idea, all I'm asking for is for us to formalize the position. Giving a proxy-maintainer an official acknowledgement will definitely attract more users to contribute. Meanwhile, developers can do innovative things that they really like without having to maintain packages just because of a formality. Giving package maintainers commit access to parts of the tree might turn out to be tricky though, this needs discussion with infra. I'd really like for us to think through this proposal - I strongly believe that this will improve the quality of Gentoo development as a whole, and reduce the number of open bugs and their turnaround times. Cheers, Anant P.S. As some of you may have already guessed, this proposal is based on Debian's approval of a similar position in their developer hierarchy last year: http://www.us.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003 P.P.S. Maybe this is more suited for -project, but everyone knows that nobody reads that list :-p -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list