[gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Marko Mikulicic]

Hello,

I posted a couple of messages and got back:

moderator....
The reason it is being held:

     Message has a suspicious header

What does this mean? It is some
spam blocking filter ?
I suspect it has to do with the attachment.

  It's a bit frustrating to be marked as a spammer :-)

It will be a big promblem when spammers will learn
how to use bugzilla :-)
The only thing I don't like in bugzilla is the latency in
its comunication. For example I have written a little (20 lines)
script and I would like to hear some feedbacks before writing
an ebuild for it and submit it to bugzilla.

Marko Mikulicic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Christian Axelsson]

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:52:17 +0200
Marko Mikulicic <marko@seul.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I posted a couple of messages and got back:
> 
> moderator....
> The reason it is being held:
> 
>      Message has a suspicious header
> 
> What does this mean? It is some
> spam blocking filter ?
> I suspect it has to do with the attachment.
> 
>   It's a bit frustrating to be marked as a spammer :-)

Welcome to the club :)

> It will be a big promblem when spammers will learn
> how to use bugzilla :-)
> The only thing I don't like in bugzilla is the latency in
> its comunication. For example I have written a little (20 lines)
> script and I would like to hear some feedbacks before writing
> an ebuild for it and submit it to bugzilla.
> 
> Marko Mikulicic

I usually solve this moderator problem with simply paste the script in the 
mail itself. I know that it can become a bit messy but hey, none of my mails
that have gone to moderators (starting from about a month ago) have never reached
the list. So why wait... I guess noone is actually reading those moderatorlists.

--
Christian Axelsson
smiler@lanil.mine.nu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Marko Mikulicic]

Christian Axelsson wrote:
> 
>>It will be a big promblem when spammers will learn
>>how to use bugzilla :-)
>>The only thing I don't like in bugzilla is the latency in
>>its comunication. For example I have written a little (20 lines)
>>script and I would like to hear some feedbacks before writing
>>an ebuild for it and submit it to bugzilla.
>>
>>Marko Mikulicic
> 
> 
> I usually solve this moderator problem with simply paste the script in the 
> mail itself. I know that it can become a bit messy but hey, none of my mails
> that have gone to moderators (starting from about a month ago) have never reached
> the list. So why wait... I guess noone is actually reading those moderatorlists.
> 

I know that attachment should be avoided in this list because it is 
better to use bugzilla, but sometimes it's easier to share ideas using mail.
  I think that enabling attachment from list members would be a good 
compromise. The list will remain open and most spammers will be catched.

Marko

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Michael Cummings]

I believe Karl announced about a month or so ago that all incoming messages that contained attachments were going to be zapped - this was a direct result of the attahment virus that spammed the -gentoo lists shortly before. Not sure, but I suspect that that relates to your problems,

Michael

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:59:18 +0200
Christian Axelsson <smiler@lanil.mine.nu> wrote:

> --------------------
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:52:17 +0200
> Marko Mikulicic <marko@seul.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I posted a couple of messages and got back:
> > 
> > moderator....
> > The reason it is being held:
> > 
> >      Message has a suspicious header
> > 
> > What does this mean? It is some
> > spam blocking filter ?
> > I suspect it has to do with the attachment.
> > 
> >   It's a bit frustrating to be marked as a spammer :-)
> 
> Welcome to the club :)
> 
> > It will be a big promblem when spammers will learn
> > how to use bugzilla :-)
> > The only thing I don't like in bugzilla is the latency in
> > its comunication. For example I have written a little (20 lines)
> > script and I would like to hear some feedbacks before writing
> > an ebuild for it and submit it to bugzilla.
> > 
> > Marko Mikulicic
> 
> I usually solve this moderator problem with simply paste the script in the 
> mail itself. I know that it can become a bit messy but hey, none of my mails
> that have gone to moderators (starting from about a month ago) have never reached
> the list. So why wait... I guess noone is actually reading those moderatorlists.
> 
> --
> Christian Axelsson
> smiler@lanil.mine.nu
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> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

We really need a better milter; what we want to do is disallow people who
send mail with Outlook to send non-PGP attachments (if you browse back,
you'll that this rule would catch all the viruses we've had on the list 
so far).

Before we've installed a proper milter, we're filtering out all
messges with attachments, regardless. The only attachment that is valid is
a PGP signature.

The "held for moderator approval" is an outright lie; we
delete all these messages without reading their content.


Kind regards,

Karl T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Thomas Beaudry]

>The "held for moderator approval" is an outright lie; we
>delete all these messages without reading their content.

So why not update the message to tell the truth so others
that stumble into the problem in the future will know what
to do?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Thomas Beaudry wrote:

> So why not update the message to tell the truth so others
> that stumble into the problem in the future will know what
> to do?

The mailman version we are using is not that powerful, and the hack is a
stop-gap measure until we've implemented a proper solution.

Kind regards,

Karl T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Thomas Beaudry]

> > So why not update the message to tell the truth so others
> > that stumble into the problem in the future will know what
> > to do?
>
>The mailman version we are using is not that powerful, and the
>hack is a stop-gap measure until we've implemented a proper solution.

Ouch!  Ok, thanks for the reply.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Moderator?

[Christian Axelsson]

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On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:44:29 +0200 (MET DST)							
Karl Trygve Kalleberg <karltk@prosalg.no> wrote:

> The mailman version we are using is not that powerful, and the hack is a
> stop-gap measure until we've implemented a proper solution.

Just changing the reply message temporarly should be an easy hack in the code if 
it cant be done via configuration files. 

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Christian Axelsson
smiler@lanil.mine.nu