From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B25E138CCF for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40F72E09D5; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw2.antarean.org (gw2.antarean.org [141.105.125.208]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50971E095F for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16C2121434 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:23 +0000 () X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from gw2.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw2.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CInCuBeGmXyn for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:23 +0000 (%Z) Received: from data.antarean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A38C12140F for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 06:18:23 +0000 () Received: from [10.20.13.30] (unknown [10.20.13.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F20CB4B for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 08:18:25 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: References: <5550AE30.4060706@nerot.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail From: "J. Roeleveld" Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 08:18:28 +0200 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: X-Archives-Salt: bf5fdfb8-daf4-4e3d-b541-2223b8cb10a5 X-Archives-Hash: 037822a5f0a6d0fe3412e9f6f41741ab On 11 May 2015 15:59:40 CEST, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, C Bergström >wrote: >> Sorry to shoot and run, but I think you're trying to tackle this >> problem in the wrong way. The problem isn't to drop the mail. The >> solution is to change email hosting providers. As a non-profit I >> believe Google hosted apps would be an option (free). > >In general we try to stick to our social contract, and that means >trying to avoid depending on proprietary technologies such as gmail. > >Now, I could see just using a FOSS-based IMAP/SMTP/POP provider, >perhaps which allows things like forwarding and such, which allows us >to have a copy of all our configuration and such in case we want to >migrate. I'm not super-familiar with the wordpress.com model but >something like that also seems reasonable - we leverage donations of >hosting services but we aren't bound to anything proprietary and have >the ability to migrate off. > >I'd REALLY like to see a FOSS alternative to Gmail (a good one, that >is), and ditto for Google docs (or whatever the latest branding for >that is). There is nothing magical about cloud-based services any more >than there is anything magical about letting somebody else host your >website. The key is to ensure that the technologies are open so that >you aren't bound to a single provider. Rich, If you are thinking of a FOSS email provider. Maybe investigate Fastmail? They use postfix and cyrus. And they also handle a lot of the development of the latter. Not sure if they would fit in with the rest, but I would trust them sooner then Google. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.