From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E007F13832E for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C91E0B70; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout02.posteo.de (mout02.posteo.de [185.67.36.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 251C9E0B5B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73B9020827 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 17:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3s4HgQ5vgyz1048 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 17:54:10 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <6e4b8735-b469-551f-1160-b608d755f950@gentoo.org> References: <57A10D6D.9050902@gentoo.org> <8c7a328a-b28a-ccb6-ff37-02bf397ab0bd@gentoo.org> <57A1269F.8070503@iee.org> <20160803031530.GA1438@meriadoc.perfinion.com> <20160803115823.ufdukakiknxfjppk@gentoo.org> <20160803151318.2763a3e778a0030bb3ec44db@gentoo.org> <6e4b8735-b469-551f-1160-b608d755f950@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----1KYB1RB6UGBUIDDSNVY7KY5L3B6BNX" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab From: M Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 17:54:03 +0200 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: X-Archives-Salt: 8a20ff22-276e-4f69-af6b-7d0941bd1b1b X-Archives-Hash: cd4a0d33a849c48beab15abbda5cb417 ------1KYB1RB6UGBUIDDSNVY7KY5L3B6BNX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The new "skype alpha" works without pulseaudio on my system, not sure if it works WITH pulseaudio ;) I am not able to make calls with and it feels kind of laggy compare. Depending on the browser version it might have even more limitations. That is why I switched to "skype alpha" "Skype Alpha" started with a complete new version-number, so the latest version would be "1.0.xxx". In the announcement it is said that making calls with the old (4.0.xx) version will not work anymore. So we could drop the old version as the web version provides as many features as. Am 3. August 2016 16:10:45 MESZ, schrieb Daniel Campbell : >On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote: >>>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote: >>>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new >>>>> maintainer. I don't know what is involved, but I might be >interested. >>>>> Might be wanting to start that direction... >>>> >>>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked >into. >>>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse >than >>>> what we currently have :P. >>>> >>>> >https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299 >>> >>> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that >feel >>> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've >moved >>> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back. >> >> Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are >> some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem. >> >> Best regards, >> Andrew Savchenko >> >Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox >can >get past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it >needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course, >doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and >bandwidth use as realistic is difficult. > >But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my >family >to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or >value >digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the >structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server). > >If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get >them to simply try Tox or another alternative. > >-- >Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer >OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net >fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. ------1KYB1RB6UGBUIDDSNVY7KY5L3B6BNX Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The new "skype alpha" works without pulseaudio on my system, not sure if it works WITH pulseaudio ;)

I am not able to make calls with and it feels kind of laggy compare. Depending on the browser version it might have even more limitations.
That is why I switched to "skype alpha"

"Skype Alpha" started with a complete new version-number, so the latest version would be "1.0.xxx".

In the announcement it is said that making calls with the old (4.0.xx) version will not work anymore. So we could drop the old version as the web version provides as many features as.





Am 3. August 2016 16:10:45 MESZ, schrieb Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org>:
On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
 I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
 maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
 Might be wanting to start that direction...

 There is a new alpha skype
for linux too now that should be looked into.
 I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
 what we currently have :P.

 https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299

 There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that feel
 that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved
 to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.
 
 Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
 some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.
 
 Best regards,
 Andrew Savchenko
 
Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox can
get
past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it
needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course,
doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and
bandwidth use as realistic is difficult.

But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my family
to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or value
digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the
structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server).

If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get
them to simply try Tox or another alternative.

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