From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11808 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 07:37:00 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 07:37:00 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Adlls-0005NQ-9d for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 07:37:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 25977 invoked by uid 50004); 6 Jan 2004 07:36:54 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 15662 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 07:36:54 +0000 From: "Allen Parker" To: "'Jon Portnoy'" Cc: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 02:36:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20040106071539.GA18423@cerberus.oppresses.us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcPUJQuZmStncYoLRS2NjyflaQ1J2wAASYsg Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds Message-Id: X-Archives-Salt: 7238f827-f35d-4a59-9bd5-035ee51ba0ef X-Archives-Hash: 883e3b9d266e03c3399c0ca28c4bfebc > On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 11:05:45PM -0800, Robert Cole wrote: > > I would like to start creating ebuilds for products and maintaining them > but > > I'm a little concerned that my contributions won't be accepted. Will I > be > > wasting my time asking to be a maintainer for a couple of ebuilds I > create > > and get them in the tree? > > > > Generally, when someone asks, my response is an automatic no. > > Prove yourself and you'll be picked up as a dev. Sorry, this seems a bit elitist. :( > > -- > Jon Portnoy > avenj/irc.freenode.net Avenj, as I recently was interested in submitting ebuilds myself. Could we possibly come up with a quick and easy system for devs to pop in, check a list of submitted ebuilds, grab ones that look interesting to them, test to see if they build/self-destruct, mark them as ~ARCH (for ARCH they can test on), either clear the initial listing and slap them into the tree or kick it back to the user? Personally, I found it to be a pain in the rear to see 1 1/2 yr old ebuilds relating to the packages I was developing ebuilds for in bugzilla, yet with information so stale as to be stinking the place up. I think that there are a lot of things that could be offered to Gentoo users without too much hassle by other Gentoo users as long as dev says "ok, that sounds fun." I mean, I got passed back and forth from hardened to general and back a few times and it was all because the devs reviewing my bug(s) didn't understand the packages. I may not know C/C++ very well (minimal understanding at most), so I wouldn't be able to "fix" something that was broken via diff, but I sure as heck have the computing power to do 100s of compiles :-D and thoroughly test certain things before I put them live on my OWN production machines. Basically, I'm not a programmer, but I can *still* write a darned good ebuild with the proper help (thx Spyderous, obz and others in #gentoo-dev). Simply because I can't program, I can't be a dev... does that mean I can't do thorough package mangling/testing? Not really... In fact, I've been told, that with most things, if anyone can break it, I can :-D Basically, I just find that the entire ebuild submission process could definitely be streamlined as to take less dev time and be more rewarding for the users actually doing the submissions. Including having user response saying, "hey, so and so just bumped package-x.y.y to package-x.y.z and it builds fine with a renamed and digested ebuild." That's my 2/100ths of a monetary unit. Allen Parker infowolfe on irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list