FW: [gentoo-dev] suggestion: virtual/telnet

["Allen Parker" <allenp@efn.org>]

Sorry, the first time I sent it, I hit the wrong reply button.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Parker [mailto:allenp@efn.org]
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 7:32 PM
> To: 'Ciaran McCreesh'
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] suggestion: virtual/telnet
> 
> I must pipe up on this one. When a user asks for "telnet" they're usually
> not aware of the security risks involved. (kinda makes me wonder why it's
> installed by default on Debian :-\) Probably the best way to handle this
> is to create a virtual/telnet and add a default package that when
> uninstalled displays a basic readme saying telnet isn't secure and why,
> asks the user if they still want to do it, and THEN after they've
> confirmed that they do in fact want telnet, allow them to emerge whichever
> telnet they choose.
> 
> So, to re-state because I'm not even sure what I said up there:
> Create package block-telnet that does as it's name implies, blocks the
> virtual/telnet package so that no other telnetd/telnet client may be
> emerged without removing it first.
> Setup block-telnet to install something like /usr/share/doc/telnet-readme
> (the contents of the same thing you read when you remove block-telnet) and
> upon unmerge fire off a simple shell script that less's the same file
> (hidden) that is telnet-readme with a yes/no choice saying are you sure
> you wish to remove me?
> Add block-telnet -> virtual/telnet as a virtual/telnet blocker by default
> for all arch/stage/devel profiles under system instead of world and make
> it a default package (like nano) for Gentoo 2004.
> 
> It honestly seems to me that this would probably take any dev minutes to
> set the virtual up this way and it would also allow very fast, short
> answers in regards to getting questions on telnet:
> 
> Eg:
> User: how do I install telnet?
> Dev: emerge unmerge block-telnet ... and read what it says.
> User: thanks for your help!
> 
> That's my 2/100ths of a monetary unit.
> Allen Parker
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ciaran McCreesh [mailto:ciaranm@gentoo.org]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:06 PM
> > To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] suggestion: virtual/telnet
> >
> > On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:03:23 +0100 Spider <spider@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > | Well,
> > |   this is something that a lot of users ask about (how do I get
> > |   telnet?)
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to educate the users to get rid of that 'type in
> > emerge telnet to install telnet' mentality?
> >
> > --
> > Ciaran McCreesh
> > Mail:    ciaranm at gentoo.org
> > Web:     http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm



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