From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EBB159C6 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:09:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-112umh0.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.90.32] helo=offthehill.org) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 169B0j-0004iN-00 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:08:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 16727 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 20:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (pardsbane@192.168.0.3) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 20:02:58 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Joshua Pollak Organization: offTheHill To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed Issuetracker via PEST Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:08:24 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <1006817973.23206.0.camel@inspiron.theleaf.office> <20011128123509.65c8252b.jnelson@jamponi.net> In-Reply-To: <20011128123509.65c8252b.jnelson@jamponi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: pardsbane@offthehill.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: fdffe35a-2630-438c-a4bb-9305c5c513e9 X-Archives-Hash: 909f6be087f295ad91b2216f2bb94a6c > Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to like how debbugs works but > you don't like the web interface. It would seem to me that the web > interface to a system as fairly simple as debbugs would be easy enough > to alter if you didn't like it. However, you still didn't mention > whether or not you've looked at http://bugs.debian.org -- personally, > I find the interface *easier* to use than any other. Below is an To me the bug.debian.org interface (Yes, I've looked at it and I'm fairly familiar with it) is just a console interface dumped to HTML form. It really doesn't take advantage of the graphical nature of the web, and I'm not talking about flashing gif's or anything, I mean Tabluar display of the bugs (I'm big on this), quickly changing how the bug listing is sorted (age, severity, class, project, whatever), easy filtering, etc. Ok, so bugs are categorized when you do a search in bug.debian.org, but its not all that great. As far as I can tell, there are 5 bugs on 2 full, busy, hard to read pages worth of scrolling for the python2.1 package... With something with a better gui, those 5 bugs could be represented on 5 lines, no scrolling, and would be easier to get a handle on. There is some serious stuff lacking in the ease of use field for debbugs. But I agree, its very powerful. Basically, I think Debbugs falls into the same category as bugzilla: Large, hard for newbies to use, and definately not all that user friendly for experts either, even if they know what they are doing. > I haven't used roundup for more than "I got it working", but it appears > to be OK, and a much simpler code base than debbugs. Simpler code base is a real bug plus. > Oh, and Python does, of course, have GTK bindings. I use them > every day at my work. Of course, I was just joking when I mentioned PHP's GTK bindings. ;)