From: "gentoo.org" <marduk@gentoo.org>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:22:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DIENIFFICEAGANPLGIBNOEAFCAAA.marduk@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311210226.hAL2QNe4093277@mxsf04.cluster1.charter.net>
I'm not going to get into the free/non-free conversation other than to say I
appreciate, and I think a lot of users appreciate at least having free &
"non-free" software available in the portage tree, whether or not they
choose to use the non-free stuff.
Though I still think it's important to have some kind of license
acknowledgement for licenses other than the GPL. The reason is that some
licenses may have restrictions that the end-user is not aware of, and it is
not immediately apparent what license a particular package is when a user
installs it. Or that package could depend on another package with a
different license that the user is unware of. I don't think of it as being
"politically correct." I just think it'll help the user know what he/she is
getting into.
So while I don't consider it an absolute requirement, I do think that it
doesn't in anyway "harm" Gentoo and is generally a "good thing."
-=m=-
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett I. Holcomb [mailto:brettholcomb@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:35 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure
To be honest Jason, I think we need to leave it as is. Gentoo is a distro
that allows us to get work done and not get into the "if you use non-free
software you have betrayed humanity" argument. If we're not careful we will
end up the same as Debian. The person raising the question is a zealot who
will accept nothing less then all free software and no non-free. That was
explained many times and he, like all of us have a choice - use a distro
that
fits whatever philosophy you have. Gentoo does not have the Debian
philosophy so for people who want that they can use Debian or another
equivalent. For those of us who just want to do a job and if non-free is
the
best then we'll use the non-free/commerical stuff and stick with Gentoo.
Why should all of us who agree with the Gentoo philosopy have to add a bunch
of licenses stuff to make.conf or wherever just to satisfy people who would
be happier with Debian type distros anyway. We can get in a situation like
those who try to be politically correct - they are constantly modifying
their
school, program, whatever to fit the whims of the latest politically correct
mandate. Gentoo's social contract is available to read - if we feel so
strongly that we can't agree to then we can go to another distro.
The id licensing is, to me, an odd case. That's the only package it's been
an issue. VMware and the others seem happy to let us have it in portage -
probably because they are time limited demos.
Don't mess with a good setup - it isn't broken so don't fix it <G>.
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-18 19:01 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure Sergey V. Spiridonov
2003-11-19 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-11-20 18:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sergey V. Spiridonov
2003-11-21 1:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21 2:34 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-21 2:53 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21 3:13 ` Aron Griffis
2003-11-21 10:07 ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-21 10:33 ` donnie berkholz
2003-11-21 10:54 ` Erik Swanson
2003-11-21 12:34 ` William Kenworthy
2003-11-21 12:53 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21 15:19 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-21 17:32 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 18:07 ` Erik Swanson
2003-11-21 20:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-11-21 21:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-22 7:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-22 21:06 ` Aron Griffis
2003-11-23 18:04 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-23 18:30 ` Luke-Jr
2003-11-23 21:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-23 22:43 ` Luke-Jr
2003-11-23 23:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-24 16:18 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24 16:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24 1:06 ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-24 1:06 ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-24 16:13 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-26 12:17 ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 17:18 ` Bob Miller
2003-11-26 18:00 ` Dewet Diener
2003-11-26 22:09 ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 22:58 ` Jason Rhinelander
2003-11-22 6:47 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22 7:39 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 19:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-26 12:06 ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 12:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2003-11-21 3:22 ` gentoo.org [this message]
2003-11-21 15:16 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-21 15:27 ` Don Seiler
2003-11-21 17:45 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 18:35 ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-22 7:06 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22 7:32 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-22 7:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-22 8:34 ` Caleb Tennis
2003-11-22 16:56 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-22 9:28 ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-11-22 16:06 ` Peter Ruskin
2003-11-22 16:57 ` Paul Varner
2003-11-22 20:31 ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-11-24 6:37 ` Andrew Cowie
2003-11-25 13:31 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24 16:33 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-25 6:42 ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-11-22 7:33 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-24 16:36 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22 10:28 ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-22 14:42 ` Heiko Vogel
2003-11-22 14:57 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-22 22:52 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure, Will it ever end? William McArthur
2003-11-22 23:43 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-23 0:30 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-23 18:08 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-23 19:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-22 14:45 ` Lisa Seelye
2003-11-26 12:52 ` Christian Birchinger
[not found] ` <20031123101838.02002dc7.thomas@zimres.net>
2003-11-23 18:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure, Will it ever end? Brett I. Holcomb
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