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From: Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo Devel <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 08:26:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOdo=SxxBDhP7G0FmirPgWE3kaWXKCd9R1EiyHUDtY32pEicqg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1515581849.31546.22.camel@gentoo.org>

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:57 AM, David Seifert <soap@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers
>>>> and whitelisted additional participants.
>>>
>>> This is so contrary to what I and I thought Gentoo stands for:
>>> openness, transparency, inclusiveness even when these require a
>>> rather thick skin and result in high noise. It's a price worth
>>> paying.
>>>
>>> I guess I should a) pay more attention to council elections b)
>>> consider the idea that the whole council thing as it stands now is
>>> just not working.
>>
>> Wow. I couldn't have said it better. Seems we're turning into an
>> elitist club or something... I wonder how many users we're going to
>> loose on this one. Well done council :-(
>
> If your only reason to use Gentoo is because you can post to the main
> developer ML, and not because we try to provide a great distribution
> with lots of choice, a current toolchain and lots of customization,
> then you're likely using the wrong distribution.

It's a question of perception. Some users might come to feel that the
Gentoo developers are not interested in their input, unlike the
developers of all other distributions (that I know of).

Gentoo's singling itself itself out as less receptive to its users
simply because some its developers are too Trumpian to resist arguing
with people who criticize their work or Gentoo.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-15 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-09 21:20 [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-09 22:20 ` Francesco Riosa
2018-01-09 22:27   ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10  0:37 ` Philip Webb
2018-01-10  1:24   ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-01-10  1:08 ` Matt Turner
2018-01-10  9:55   ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 17:11     ` Matt Turner
2018-01-10 19:06       ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 19:31         ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10 19:45           ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 20:48           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 21:13             ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10  5:48 ` Eray Aslan
2018-01-10  7:55   ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-10 10:57     ` David Seifert
2018-01-10 13:49       ` kuzetsa
2018-01-10 14:50         ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-15 13:26       ` Tom H [this message]
2018-01-15 15:09         ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-15 22:49           ` Gordon Pettey
2018-01-10 14:55     ` Alexander Berntsen
2018-01-10 15:09       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 15:52       ` kuzetsa
2018-01-11  7:03     ` Eray Aslan
2018-01-11  8:30       ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-10  9:53   ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 11:14     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-10 17:16     ` Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
2018-01-10 19:44       ` Michał Górny
2018-01-11  1:12       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-11  4:22         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2018-01-11  5:37           ` Gordon Pettey
2018-01-11  8:21             ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-11 17:07         ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2018-01-11 17:34           ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-11 17:59             ` Matthias Maier
2018-01-13  0:02           ` Paul B. Henson
2018-01-11 14:48     ` R0b0t1
2018-01-11 17:03     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-01-10 19:56 ` Fabian Groffen
2018-01-10 22:28 ` Roy Bamford
2018-01-10 23:20   ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-10 23:27     ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 23:35       ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-10 23:39         ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-11  1:03   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-11 11:44     ` Roy Bamford
2018-01-11  3:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Benda Xu
2018-01-11 19:54   ` William Hubbs
2018-01-12 23:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul B. Henson
2018-03-20  8:52 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-03-24  3:11   ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-24  3:34     ` Aaron Bauman
2018-03-25  4:07       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)

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