From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E83D13877A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 12:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C94B3E091E; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 12:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAA45E0904 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 12:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f8so2219965wiw.0 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WzGnWt1qF2vh4AwVw0FnJ9T4XvH/4ytl0raNkFRd0ks=; b=Bypb6yN2KlBQLsZ8Beg0ijbEfN4sy2G/HeQNnM15VnhmdCAB7cjlGjmbKyv1F3nWgX p1mDNElPhx83gG+I3x9mdAFO4JaslhR1GBD2eMmQTOYvYaJ8H3+XuQAC/uCzLzHhdvdC I1+WoV4LgxoJ6IDmJKJXpel83NxUQarSb7CgRbuwbbRN3UVLCsWmnRJLSt0Qhlc4SviS gOft5p8KJPcyB4SZB+JCP+MkEOVTcYSBH2jT8wr7QSkopanyCIu0EaxY+uZAjApM1Abe mW/qwcqK0WgQkZRuXxYbEwWFyjmMvyttaSRR+yvb+h1Exvq+CnaKyCnUwc2ehJ99ot/f yHEQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.99.4 with SMTP id em4mr6246811wib.8.1407586564435; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.78.173 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:16:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E600A7.9000805@gentoo.org> References: <53e4ccbd.c2b4700a.3bec.2414@mx.google.com> <20140809083458.18519.qmail@stuge.se> <53E600A7.9000805@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:16:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: minimalistic emerge From: Ambroz Bizjak To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 72d042dc-9dfc-4d6e-b3dd-203ff2cc9563 X-Archives-Hash: 017cac747b232d92781abf246dc7ef2c Hey all. Regarding updates breaking the system, NixOS might be worth a try. The functional nature of the package manager there lets you try out an update, either live or in a VM, as well as roll back to the old configuration in case of problems. Due to the design there's no risk in building updates on a stable system, the build process won't interfere until all the updates are built and you decide to try it out in some way (other by exhausting RAM etc). They also have both stable release branches and a master branch with more updated packages. (Not trying to start a distro war, please excuse me if it sounds like this.) Best regards, Ambroz On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, hasufell wrote: > Duncan: >> Peter Stuge posted on Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:34:58 +0200 as excerpted: >> >>> Duncan wrote: >>>> Red Hat is the gold standard, very long term commercial support, >>>> IIRC 10 years, and very good community relations >>> >>> I've heard this on occasion, but reality is actually quite different. >>> >>> Red Hat is a software service provider. They do whatever their paying >>> customers ask for. They do not take community relations very seriously >>> in my experience. I believe it is the job of a single person. >> > > [...] > > Can you open a new thread about redhat? I fail to see any connection to > the initial issue. >