From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1854C158089 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65AA02BC05F; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D2512BC014 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-500760b296aso943921e87.0 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 02:43:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qap-la.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694598231; x=1695203031; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WA08BApw97BP7B5d81Qaa90W3fkQb+RF6FgvhV7aFu4=; b=PSPDHDQ2VVRJ+wQMEO2gWJyW1agEsBrz8L8qe4MpfESQ+XTcCOnE4wbde1Udnf4H0p Y+lzybhuz5tg1c6mWUE2oTjmnAb3FG7rwXgthBB8svLpsgl/UaqRL+X8oRWnkNHQoTFR K5JzCUr+934U9gZgPnvEWFEU45GRaz1ECHOwOji0uZqBpUcB0AePqwfZzoKWJWidcrk0 ZlQNbxDu3xdz83q5T37zagoGWKoB1SVo3eQq/KdZ2Fo5N/UVRItFQndgjQf+2pGJSAUk cQLHsQd6qQfCdWV0Z1rWHOsc15ZU+olOGqfi4Hi9gCQ0ica4JqVzZ+8jIdtYKzPAb0bE ahCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694598231; x=1695203031; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WA08BApw97BP7B5d81Qaa90W3fkQb+RF6FgvhV7aFu4=; b=HIOmL2nAKkRlXjNIUA8cyBC83m8MZv7mouwJURur7k2itehLurw7miXek0G6kaGK3H LFc+qnM5R6Rbbg5CxjomcPz9wUuET6EZ/HdmfZ7NRMMCc+UmZpN8TCrE+K9++j08wNEr q9lY6myKaf0q7bjnCF/VQUastWja86U2QKnLPiqpaNltc4688wQ8QnLu5922Zi2NHgyK MH5QZ4A5be1D5pN0kl1/aZSvIKSgsf1sg8lidjWFPMZrXCKPdN2+0+xt5jIiZRaeGZSV vRYcVi8gWLetkypPZKxhmn0j+DF2CB3A/K/8PJUU5+DBaC+rYzAHXOvT04pke6QtllF4 MZ1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxycPDIMb2pUVHoEQM85+C1vmpYHGcf2p0rN1AzZtdOxbuS54Ud gKSdu5G5YS4W9bKGLWEE3W+58oiIVg+3Lmkln135OPwa42tMo4Ek X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHS+5T62jRrrlpMClC4A7Ixdh4bmxvwIJ2xIMoqqSoyfow6KjjECLaAn4P3R0m1dBbe/GYvi1/Mwh06GOoRuVA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:a90:b0:502:9fce:b6e6 with SMTP id m16-20020a0565120a9000b005029fceb6e6mr804243lfu.1.1694598231330; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 02:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <9d7e0523-a268-dc95-3967-cf4b909d41f4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Alex Boag-Munroe Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:43:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: fce72f76-64e4-4c9b-8ae3-67e6b2c356dc X-Archives-Hash: a0c97d05d62141e2c8f395dbf3f51716 On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 10:34, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > It seems like the discussion got way off-topic. > To see where where at, I'll try to summarize what was said so far. > > The claims are that eudev is unmaintained upstream, downstream and has > open bugs. > Upstream, last commit was 3 weeks ago. > Downstream, Orbea said he is willing to help maintain it. He is known > for his great work on libressl(thank you), so there should be no > problems here. > Most of those bugs are invalid, outdated or being worked upon. > > Are there any other problems here? > Yes, the general dip in overall activity and quality of what's going on with upstream eudev maintenance, their approach to the libgudev/sticky tags API change that triggered this discussion being a great example.