From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBBC5158089 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB9E62BC092; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x12a.google.com (mail-lf1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 943FE2BC025 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-502e7d66c1eso1751231e87.1 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qap-la.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694713963; x=1695318763; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aR5yMV9GaAr4Fu3M8yMr4Txc7YdtBvoxrFL3Vsh9pds=; b=gSY3WG/Wn91Xumx5wzxel3nYpykNiNWxu5BU656NuSJx7pmdD9kLc0Da9WKgXRHSwU EZWULO228V8dhF4qG7Rby/hNe6FykD4rq0fnGlH0x6qkQ0+wJ9aXT9PjnXezKMyQ1sD8 NBas+ahnDm3NnjtgADzvtby0ILqLi9dOMz67nY3FL7JBGmfiu29wmqi/waqKZAhab2pY nJDHLdxa0cpQZ8keV8YabCiQcaOrrRaIwmtWhO0+LzXC3PS0Sxujvm8Zn07f/lHzC2su F8nle7Fq984PrPUrx/OPE8v+hq5u9ZvJPAeUcypa13SqodN5BldX8cMzD4gmOFxV7gWz fUfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694713963; x=1695318763; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aR5yMV9GaAr4Fu3M8yMr4Txc7YdtBvoxrFL3Vsh9pds=; b=wn4HczzHaS7yLSm/Bw646nb5v8tq7wO1f4j3d4LWUo3SqX7youFEiv+KTkOTgZpXZw 81KsuwPuqH25x/0X/6KrSTdubkvdepJXso0Blw+35UQqvLkJss1hmVMi6vbxkzz7B19/ Aad7a4dENtU/XU9Ku1Bx+T8Mufmw3CCUmXXsdM3Y2Wt8ryvrZ+exSkLd0T31JTWwxr3W fIV/AtUTvhFxFwsWhM4OpHvcx3lMUU7K/N7hlOWLuwlv+bVUUWpCcdgm6JnZbb31a6G6 WRvk/rK3W9aSucERp78G3qkHFrOaTysR2oup7QK9aZ9hJ9+aX/FaLgm8hyver+xCEQQV ctfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNSL4DHdLEI2Dl3pOiMvX6lKn2gaXaNIUbH7weS0B4A+PmswRK k1sgDoVwKifO1WuH5f+jF7eQmoXUGHq/uA1wUnIlhTi+YOUvOrQm X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGKS1J5/pu+xUTqo4e3CLWex6YCcVjLkBz5j83qTrf5hfxAR7kzjy3z9H9YO3skKFr3Si230Zxo44hRpIYiijo= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5f4a:0:b0:502:d765:a7c9 with SMTP id 10-20020ac25f4a000000b00502d765a7c9mr4370648lfz.28.1694713963218; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <7B549F95-5EEA-4DD3-A046-AA6F2C7B6349@gentoo.org> <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <6e35ba9b-a55b-4b36-9d79-96faa5fb1dc6@gentoo.org> <0daf33d92cd33094b88c0411a16a63ac.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <50d2d8a5796c8f71b58747d3f23593dd.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> In-Reply-To: From: Alex Boag-Munroe Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:52:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 7468a8f7-e083-40d7-90c5-542a4712c3e5 X-Archives-Hash: 67dcb3381bcb343f3ff36ff94d56709d On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 18:40, Eddie Chapman wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > Not aiming this at you personally but this argument has been made more > than once in this thread and I personally don't think it carries any > weight, because it can be levelled at anyone who raises an issue about > anything. If you don't like it, then just go and roll your own. Of course > I know I (and anyone else) can do that. So then what's the point of > discussing anything then? What's the point of having a big tree with > hundreds of packages? Why not have a very minimal tree instead and let > everyone go and run multiple independent repos so we can all do what we > want? Then we wouldn't have any discussion about what to include and what > not. In fact maybe that's not a bad idea. > The point of having ::gentoo is a collection of packages to make it easy for users at large to install useful software so that they may have and use a functional system, including people not skilled enough to want or care for their own overrides. Such facilities have expectations such as "things in this repo either work together or are drop in replacements for X feature/Y software". There's nothing stopping you or anyone, right now, doing what you sarcastically suggest above for things that aren't practical to have in ::gentoo. -- Ninpo