From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280A138010 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808D721C003; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71608E030B for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id un3so2964928obb.40 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j5+Yuhh5ijMQuV0tSLTKoQ8Qu0CP+RfXeYS8ObEos2M=; b=h8OEHUDx0/rFDlek3AngK3QK2OzAWNEZ0iD5yflKn6lS96GB+5k6tEACJeD5Spdn8E N1R80U73P+Q3NWJlDImtDb1gCHdniRVQt3m/PUYl0016nxT8kOgE9plF/bRdY+ZnBuNB VlBbf3wbYWbUnOfpqjSEDWb/MS57xLcP6Fg+BDYV2QZdC2cjxoP6oGimyMJisHMDKm9N mihYzInceEa2gjWQnlHFxrjvP7Za8Jsv6kenCChV8/jh7zgmSKsXnO4sIQBeB/kNg9BW kE/TyoHtdLxMBgL/q9nWfGzTYhuUZcAZFxb9W/WEVrJVhRsNdHtp/oJjHWnjzGjkeHDV qFkg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.185.12 with SMTP id ey12mr3690780obc.7.1350051222867; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.3.37 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201210111522.17665.vapier@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:13:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: removing "server" profile variants from profiles.desc From: Ben Kohler To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444810191501c04cbdd4be7 X-Archives-Salt: e6cbb68e-ed44-4b83-9c18-82788955b097 X-Archives-Hash: 5f8a75c7b17c45ba3a95d07bf94c7162 --f46d0444810191501c04cbdd4be7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is why I said that the server profile are no lighter than the base. It's actually the base PLUS "snmp truetype xml". My original suggestion of hiding or removing the server profiles was based on the assumption that no one wants to maintain it. The server profiles *in their current state* are silly & undesirable, in my view. The server target has not been touched in almost 2 years, and most of the people using it are doing so based on false assumptions. If it is to remain in its current state, I think it should at least be removed from the .desc listing. If we have a plan to make the server profiles useful again, as a purposeful set of flags applied against the base, then keeping these profiles listed is great. I would use a server profile myself, in such case. -Ben On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Markos Chandras > wrote: > >> +1. I want these profiles to *staty*. I am using this profile on my > >> "home boxes". It is the most minimal profile as the rest of the > >> profiles pull in too much useless stuff. What is wrong with these > >> profiles anyway? > > > > Looking at the actual profiles themselves, using server vs the base > > profile makes these changes: > > USE="-perl -python snmp truetype xml" > > > > perl and python have not been enabled in the default/linux profile for > some time now: > > RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/make.defaults,v > > revision 1.15 > date: 2011-10-05 15:22:13 -0400; author: darkside; state: Exp; > lines: +2 -2; commitid: 2e764e8cae624567; > Remove USE={python,perl} from default profile, as discussed/announced. > Bug 250179 > > Disabling those flags in the server profile is redundant. > > --f46d0444810191501c04cbdd4be7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is why I said that the server profile are no lighter than the base. = =A0It's actually the base PLUS "snmp truetype xml". =A0
<= br>
My original suggestion of hiding or removing the server profi= les was based on the assumption that no one wants to maintain it. =A0The se= rver profiles *in their current state* are silly & undesirable, in my v= iew. =A0The server target has not been touched in almost 2 years, and most = of the people using it are doing so based on false assumptions.

If it is to remain in its current state, I think it sho= uld at least be removed from the .desc listing. =A0If we have a plan to mak= e the server profiles useful again, as a purposeful set of flags applied ag= ainst the base, then keeping these profiles listed is great. =A0I would use= a server profile myself, in such case.

-Ben

On Fri, Oct 12, = 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Markos Chandr= as <hwoarang@gentoo.org> w= rote:
>> +1. I want these profiles to *staty*. I am using this profile on m= y
>> "home boxes". It is the most minimal profile as the rest= of the
>> profiles pull in too much useless stuff. What is wrong with these<= br> >> profiles anyway?
>
> Looking at the actual profiles themselves, using server vs the base > profile makes these changes:
> USE=3D"-perl -python snmp truetype xml"
>

perl and python have not been enabled in the default/linux profile fo= r
some time now:

RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/make.defaults,v
revision 1.15
date: 2011-10-05 15:22:13 -0400; =A0author: darkside; =A0state: Exp;
lines: +2 -2; =A0commitid: 2e764e8cae624567;
Remove USE=3D{python,perl} from default profile, as discussed/announced. Bug 250179

Disabling those flags in the server profile is redundant.


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