On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> Any users trying this sidegrade will be left without support and risk
> being ridiculed by annoyed bystanders.
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There are many of us supporting systemd + gnome 3.8 in #gentoo right now
today, and I am strongly discouraging this "ridicule".  We also discourage
ridicule when someone asks for support on KDE, Gnome, Pulseaudio,
NetworkManager, proprietary drivers, or any of the other packages that tend
to draw such polar opinions-- but are fully supported.

I do think it's a good idea to get all this out in the open though-- make
sure users know exactly what they're getting into, how much it's going to
turn their gentoo world upside down (for a day or 2), WHY this is
happening, and what the alternatives are.  Most of this has been covered in
this thread already.  But it's not unsupported just because some people
don't know how (or have no desire) to support it.

As for the stabilization issue-- it seems like most people against
stabilization just want ~arch as a barrier or "whoa, wait up a sec" warning
to stable users don't stumble upon systemd, which makes sense.  But I think
there are better ways to accomplish this, rather than abusing keywords.

-Ben