From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-58369-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A874138973 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0810521C16A; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7F5021C166 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id dr12so4052385wgb.23 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=qmBdySHNsJpM+1yBvoqo2fudeKrXg/jbIKi1bKtNH3U=; b=Jpug0dPLIa78iTDvY03FnnliN8D9GYFPo5oCCLzOusb9kTOgmPkawR/rOjKCKk/1/H DShY+/stOkkKDT4gAgpfKJK+pYUt7zm/D21+/3b2B5tfpZmzlvvUIjr9bLjt5P2HrcAX yI6eXdwq5BPOkydDAavuq7L5chhPbZ2cucjBQUgMdDYXTQq4+V5QxcXtsS1utKHoBZPO C1caom6FuQ0xi1dKvOFs6aBm0DQPsIh+K6/EdITVAOJs43IRU+LwFGGBYYGNJtwatPTR VNKYmXoaDodWz1dyXe2j2mBC+OYjfH1AV4eRi0O3+k/5Xtnx1RARV0EbJ5d1QCElYNKx VQYQ== X-Received: by 10.194.172.197 with SMTP id be5mr19360731wjc.20.1360515287352; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lxnay@sabayonlinux.org Received: by 10.194.29.74 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:54:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <CAKmKYaA4tz6VDjBRm320WNRChmoJKekdG-Ti5KhTtG4NVtpRFA@mail.gmail.com> References: <5117560B.3090709@gentoo.org> <20130210174634.77631769@sf> <1360508715.26312.8.camel@belkin4> <CAKmKYaA4tz6VDjBRm320WNRChmoJKekdG-Ti5KhTtG4NVtpRFA@mail.gmail.com> From: Fabio Erculiani <lxnay@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:07 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B5QcvkpRCQvAo81AtMjOu7ckCwA Message-ID: <CAN3AtvpsjL0u491q-ODtMNdAHw0vzhJt7_33DR+MwzqO47dHYw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1) To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUBb6cgVgkOgD5lm34V/OC5z9SSm8nG6uR+Mq3iYw9SggP2O2Z9wTBXD4xZ7jQmYZxDT5o X-Archives-Salt: 32eecdf7-060e-484b-b2b8-f91a78e9149f X-Archives-Hash: f3df49e60baaa754d05f51a428dd3d4f On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman <djc@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote: >> I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get >> proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/ > > +1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I > didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older kernel > sources came with the firmware?). This is another problem, namely dependency level problem. I don't see how having kernel sources ebuilds providing /lib/firmware would fix any of the listed issues without causing other "side effects". For starters, if kernel sources provide /lib/firmware, how do you deal with file collisions? > > Cheers, > > Dirkjan > -- Fabio Erculiani