From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063661381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB2EBE09FF; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7E46E09F1 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fq13so155935lab.11 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:54:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z8DtDUoyseyYNgZg9QI7fKOZMpI3FuOr6+kqtoq6cEo=; b=Pae3fhV6v5wgEBC5ysVuwli0kUnwEmBvlV7PCRvClCyXa+NGP/Al2wjFumgrUV73oe Apmbq6/fSxtOP0fC5giEDKV6zywrOq2Du9EoIuHYspmBJKiaO3t4EsYhdH92gtn/sBsx cN1LXF24pMfQgiE9M8VtQW71ikoXdYi0LLvFlDDg6g8z+3T7swvDy6wqNNuO1v2XeN+T mlAUKwnj1WGJsRCwxF9i/xSWDs/oCadoh1QabvkpDYYhrUvyCOpYX8sHExwhkL5Ms9H0 Z2pxVueyV9D8F/hunJZNrQ3h1jCHygiIXJOCoEbITiRCcJu2TjXnSZffhA+XKdX/cCVH suRQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.61.165 with SMTP id q5mr1596546lbr.31.1374724470131; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: zmedico@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.29.132 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:54:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F0A072.6060806@gentoo.org> References: <20130724124923.GB3010@ion.office.nerd.gr> <20130724153123.GA2892@ion.office.nerd.gr> <51EFF73E.5020604@gentoo.org> <20130724132315.19acde44@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <20130724211726.5df32731@gentoo.org> <20130724201854.320c0585@googlemail.com> <51F0770E.60800@gentoo.org> <51F0A072.6060806@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:54:30 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KS8nojy0neY0H320APX_6cMXQ2k Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: revbumping ebuilds after USE dependency changes From: Zac Medico To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 74199a4f-22c4-4259-ade5-4ae397abff64 X-Archives-Hash: ff8da8dfc43a3c4552a07759656743c0 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM, "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 7/24/13 5:53 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >> On 07/24/2013 03:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200 >>> Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >>>> Other thing is that Portage explicitly ignores PMS in this matter >>>> and uses dependencies from ebuilds rather than recorded ones. This is >>>> supposedly wrong, supposedly slow but allows us to be lazy. >> >>> It's not slow. It's just wrong, and intermittently leads to very >>> strange behaviour. >> >> ++ > > Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly, > even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding? Just set EMERGE_DEFAULT_DEPS=3D"--dynamic-deps=3Dn" in make.conf if you'd like to test it.