From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB07138247 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 127C0E0AAB; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3EF8E0A9B for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so3311053wgg.20 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=teXNPtlIrIemYV2oLeMUGMLua4ee95xIeh4QjVwPs68=; b=Lt+zKF+/CBt/7QGzy0qjDXCPsVH4DdZMH2whg7AolQkIWwwc7fi/KR4XC6UpeXq9kz tC3xp7pn4C78oKzTofgNfoBhpccnQcMbWPMFJuyrtfOMHJ6Jyazt9rmtDYkteIDjbiMl xIvv3uO0y2vjJ8Mx5T4gYRXHCdTCz9P/FNOtt+whta6pl4q1CF/G4f2PAZObhJwl0NHw r/UTu/qoa/4lW4OMv1NMK1iQ5fUyp8rmvlOTUJX2yUVJKh6+pvJpCxr9dLKiZ9PD6BNC 9dQwFVjS34K153Mt0GLr/MYm8hsBSJO88+0qsVFz58CrUqG94ESFsyO0FVPIgtCBwLo+ 2+4w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.99.73 with SMTP id eo9mr62926wib.50.1384039504161; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: alex.alexander@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.216.198 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <527D8D27.4020105@gentoo.org> <20131109111608.786a0890@shanghai.paradoxon.rec> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 01:25:04 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nCnBvW84jEG70ta6-OLg1Za4zZ8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed From: Alex Alexander To: Gentoo-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428f4800322404eac6cfd8 X-Archives-Salt: bf00f269-d354-4cc1-826f-1cebd870f676 X-Archives-Hash: bc717b572496b1377c4ecf1b28ffe685 --f46d04428f4800322404eac6cfd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Diego Elio Petten=F2 wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Alex Alexander wrote: > >> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego Elio Petten=F2 < >> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote: >> >>> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given >>> we don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion= of >>> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is. >> >> >> Herds are definitely not the solution for everything, but they make sens= e >> when you have multiple people interested in maintaining large sets of >> ebuilds. If nothing else, they make life easier for bug wranglers, >> especially when you have >2 maintainers. >> > > You read my comment the wrong way (or I wrote it too hastily to be > understood). I mean I don't see the need to split sysadmin herd in three = or > more. Sure there is stuff in sysadmin that I don't care about because I > don't use, but nothing forces me to maintain all of it. And if nobody car= es > about I'm perfectly fine to mark it as m-n. > > But I don't see the point in saying "well, nobody cares about nagios but > two people, so we're moving it to a nagios herd". Might as well just use > the two maintainers there, then. > > Yes I know I haven't been active at all. My time management is terrible > and even after meeting Tom Limoncelli in person I doubt I'll magically > start getting better at it, but I'll try to work on it. > I misunderstood you, I thought you were comparing having herds to not having herds at all, my bad. I replied hastily and didn't consider that nagios and friends are part of a herd already. I agree that splitting herds is not necessary in a case like this. --=20 Alex Alexander + wired + www.linuxized.com + www.leetworks.com --f46d04428f4800322404eac6cfd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Diego Elio Petten=F2 <flameeyes@flameeyes= .eu> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:3= 0 PM, Alex Alexander <wired@gentoo.org> wrote:
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego E= lio Petten=F2 <flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote:
I don't understand people's insisten= ce with a single product herd given we don't have enough manpower yet a= nd I don't want to have an explosion of aliases I need to subscribe to,= the spam is enough as it is.

Herds are definitely not t= he solution for everything, but they=A0make sense when you have multiple pe= ople interested in maintaining large sets of ebuilds. If nothing else, they= make life easier for bug wranglers, especially when you have >2 maintai= ners.

You read my comment the wrong = way (or I wrote it too hastily to be understood). I mean I don't see th= e need to split sysadmin herd in three or more. Sure there is stuff in sysa= dmin that I don't care about because I don't use, but nothing force= s me to maintain all of it. And if nobody cares about I'm perfectly fin= e to mark it as m-n.

But I don't see the point in saying "well, nob= ody cares about nagios but two people, so we're moving it to a nagios h= erd". Might as well just use the two maintainers there, then.

Yes I know I haven't been active at all. My time ma= nagement is terrible and even after meeting Tom Limoncelli in person I doub= t I'll magically start getting better at it, but I'll try to work o= n it.

I misunderstood you, I t= hought you were comparing having herds to not having herds at all, my bad. = I replied hastily and didn't consider that nagios and friends are part = of a herd already.

I agree that splitting herds is not necessary in a case= like this.

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