On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires
> >> systemd.
> >>
> >> What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this
> >> restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this
> >> eye-candy as well.
> >>
> >> I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an
> >> uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light.
> >>
> >> Facts, pls!
> >>
> >>    Michael
> >>
> >> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252
> >
> > To stabilize gnome-3.6, we would need
> > 1. one or (preferably) two *active* gentoo developers;
> > 2. who are familiar with gnome's internals and are able to backport
> > bugfixes from 3.8/3.10 without support from upstream developers; and
> > 3. who volunteer to run openrc+gnome-3.6 for a long time on their main
> > machines so that they can give a stable 3.6 the support that the word
> > 'stable' implies.
> >
> > We do not have such people on the gnome team.
> >
>
> Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by
> the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision.
>
> It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm
> properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By
> stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others.
>
> I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest
> to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our
> support range ...
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Patrick
>

Although I understand your frustration, I don't see any other options for
the Gentoo gnome team. People who don't like this should take their
complaints upstream.

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