Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!

[David Leverton <levertond@googlemail.com>]

On 14 March 2012 23:44, Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Oh, and somehow "consensus" will work?  No, sorry, it will not.

No, logical analysis will, as I said in the rest of my post which you
conveniently ignored - either we conclude with evidence that there are
no issues, which should settle the matter for reasonable people, or we
discover that there are, in which case they have to be dealt with one
way or another.  I really don't see how anyone can object to that,
unless they're worried they won't like the result....

> How about the basic FACT that today, such systems do not work

This is debatable at best.  You can keep screaming "but bluetooth
won't work!" until you're blue in the face, but that's not relevant at
all to people who don't use bluetooth.

> and are not supported by a wide range of packages we support today.

Isn't such support being removed by the same people who keep arguing
that it's already not supported?  That's like cutting half your
employees' pay, and then insisting that you have to choice but to cut
the other half's pay as well, in order to be fair.

> Yes, some people are "lucky" in that their systems don't have those
> packages, but others are not.  The simple "I use a bluetooth keyboard"
> is one such example.

People who only have a bluetooth keyboard can set their systems up in
such a way that it works, just like how people who have / on lvm can
set their systems up in such a way that that works.  That's not in
itself a reason to force it on everyone.

> It is strange to watch people somehow think that if they complain
> enough, or feel strongly enough, something is going to change here to
> make this basic fact go away.

If by "the basic fact" you mean that plenty of people are quite happy
doing what's worked just fine for years, then yes.