From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-48846-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RX6hi-000138-P1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:41:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE57421C056; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA9A21C046 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tetromino) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F13C41B4006 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dade7 with SMTP id e7so5510142dad.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.10.138 with SMTP id i10mr11747349pbb.92.1322984414600; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:40:14 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.216.14 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:39:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> References: <20111204045000.244efea3@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> From: Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 02:39:53 -0500 Message-ID: <CAL0O3aM-q90xeRx=XYW9Hf4HZv3T77ZdAJEQb-FbJeGyVDdivA@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again? To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 554aa34e-7181-44e2-8858-90301101c5f1 X-Archives-Hash: 834794ee5c0ddffdfc457323fe3814ed On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:50:00 +0100 > Jeroen Roovers <jer@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have >> been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both >> bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative >> that every developer should be able to read. > > How many times have you needed to request build logs in english since the= last > time you brought this up? =C2=A0How many times have you had to request em= erge > --info or build logs in general? I suspect that being able to read logs is much more important for general bug wranglers like Jeroen than for the developers who only deal with bugs for a small set of packages. Although I find non-English logs annoying, they are usually good enough for me to find the problem when dealing with bugs in a package with which I am already familiar. However, I would likely be lost if I needed to help a user who had posted a log in a language that I did not understand for a package that I knew little about. -Alexandre.