From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5BD139694 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16E8EE0CEA; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C167BE0CB9 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f170.google.com (mail-io0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C37D5341653 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f170.google.com with SMTP id t68so61484431iof.0 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 06:21:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6jv8OOgo4HgjO/jE/5QofcKwJ/RxNY/zh8dYapl+Lp3x1BBFaOKSpiBTs6IBAdcUxJ+QUoK5K2nOdDsw== X-Received: by 10.107.53.2 with SMTP id c2mr7219092ioa.185.1491830515795; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 06:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.8.225 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 06:21:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8F38F35E-A4CE-4530-880C-E409E672F253@gentoo.org> References: <8F38F35E-A4CE-4530-880C-E409E672F253@gentoo.org> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:21:35 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: Gentoo Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6232030f-78d2-4249-b1fc-d7cd38236ac0 X-Archives-Hash: 5d9080806b03004e0f6e240fe583df67 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = wrote: > It is always nice when a person who: Please stop the sarcasm. While I understand the reaction, the idea in itself does not seem totally crazy to me, and it seems useful to have a discussion on its merits. At the same time, I would not consider it far-fetched to say that you proposed significant changes to handling of manifest hashes, without deep knowledge of the security aspects of the hashing algorithms up for discussion. This is sometimes how we learn. If you feel the thread wastes time, you can just ignore it (as you seem to have done with the manifest hashes thread after a few critical responses, somewhat to my disappointment). Cheers, Dirkjan