From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC270139083 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA918E0F12; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7383EE0E43; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f51.google.com (mail-wm0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2205233BF01; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i11so10968890wmf.4; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:31:00 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIBSstgY8FPpV5FTKrstDO+e5HsJURnMAq/50xJbSftd+mm73f/ +wLZ5zrcOhevggYAcfKzjL7Oes+seUuLlg5zlDA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbZTIaT7c6u1nM9+vDEx7tL9EN1q90kgQcXvgMP2WMTA9a3MYexbdqRKEYuuwUNe3eP3pyXti4pxqeYQaE2whw= X-Received: by 10.28.1.196 with SMTP id 187mr3446698wmb.151.1512333057361; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:30:57 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.88.82 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 12:30:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1512256684.30000.48.camel@gentoo.org> References: <1512256684.30000.48.camel@gentoo.org> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 21:30:36 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists To: Gentoo Development Cc: gentoo-project Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113c8c3eaa8ea4055f757a80" X-Archives-Salt: c1cc224a-d7e2-4499-b2e0-67f021735ab8 X-Archives-Hash: a0dfb2c4c04c75ca0887798a27733e55 --001a113c8c3eaa8ea4055f757a80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = wrote: > 1. Posting to gentoo-dev@ and gentoo-project@ mailing lists will be > initially restricted to active Gentoo developers. > > 1a. Subscription (reading) and archives will still be open. > > 1b. Active Gentoo contributors will be able to obtain posting access > upon being vouched for by an active Gentoo developer. > On the face of it, I like this proposal. On the other hand, wouldn't it be better if we just had more active list moderators? That is, moderators who move problematic user's posts to moderated by default, and then withhold the specific posts if necessary? 2. A new mailing list 'gentoo-expert' will be formed to provide > a discussion medium for expert Gentoo users and developers. > > 2a. gentoo-expert will have open posting access like gentoo-dev has now. > I'm not sure this will be worth it. Who exactly do you think is the audience for this mailing list? What is the goal? How is it different from existing mailing lists? Cheers, Dirkjan --001a113c8c3eaa8ea4055f757a80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny <= mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
1. Posting to gentoo-d= ev@ and gentoo-project@ mailing lists will be
initially restricted to active Gentoo developers.

1a. Subscription (reading) and archives will still be open.

1b. Active Gentoo contributors will be able to obtain posting access
upon being vouched for by an active Gentoo developer.
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On the face of it, I like this p= roposal. On the other hand, wouldn't it be better if we just had more a= ctive list moderators? That is, moderators who move problematic user's = posts to moderated by default, and then withhold the specific posts if nece= ssary?

2. A new mailing list 'gentoo-expert' will be formed to provide
a discussion medium for expert Gentoo users and developers.

2a. gentoo-expert will have open posting access like gentoo-dev has now.

I'm not sure this will be worth it. W= ho exactly do you think is the audience for this mailing list? What is the = goal? How is it different from existing mailing lists?

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Cheers,

Dirkjan
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