From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-52208-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SbR6i-0004Aq-41 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:49:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D59BE07AD; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC12E07A3 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09E061B4043 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbuo19 with SMTP id uo19so7707870obb.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.172.195 with SMTP id be3mr10960798oec.48.1338792514398; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.33.37 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:48:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nDAH7U1BUDXxu_CczUEHkVKqxfJj6i-tv8Jw1DAyFc7g@mail.gmail.com> References: <robbat2-20120603T092545-185945341Z@orbis-terrarum.net> <CAKmKYaBSft9AkauGvcSsqjEZ+ptFwLVYq86_UJD0fsKwE5MS0Q@mail.gmail.com> <robbat2-20120603T173337-111680619Z@orbis-terrarum.net> <CAKmKYaB5-LWg9EjQuX9jm8tUzmfFU8=YZ2KhuN9kQywOkjTfCA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGfcS_nDAH7U1BUDXxu_CczUEHkVKqxfJj6i-tv8Jw1DAyFc7g@mail.gmail.com> From: Dirkjan Ochtman <djc@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:48:14 +0200 Message-ID: <CAKmKYaCA-cY0u3abreQNzLdos7r8e396L=_YJJvmL23jumqZNQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Git braindump: 2 of N: developer interaction (merge co-ordinators) To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: af8b819d-f164-46dc-af19-d37802f92858 X-Archives-Hash: e3dafa212919b63812d42a8da84d61e6 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote: > A test of some sort would cut down the risk of the unexpected when we > do the real migration. I understand the desire for this, but I don't think it will work. The first few hours/days after the git migration are going to be painful either way. If you run a test now, you'll get limited buy-in (everyone's busy with other stuff), which would probably also be rather biased (the most git/DVCS-averse devs are the least likely to participate). You certainly won't be able to emulate the load of the real tree. IMO we should try to be cutting down barriers from the git migration, not throwing up more. The process has taken long enough already; the desire to control everything about the migration is part of why it's taken so long. I lived through Mozilla's Mercurial migration, and it was messy, too. That was probably worse, as there was less experience with DVCS at the time, but it will still be messy. Dirkjan