From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDFEE13832E for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C27521C09C; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB4C3E0B9C for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com (mail-wm0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAC58340E5A for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i5so102656618wmg.0 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoous6nmTgQjNlYEPA5PiQcXKDNjRwpV2AxPpd9CM9UWVPA21rn8Biq9Ol80kUfHlivPjQdb4duQ2dTI8AvQ== X-Received: by 10.28.203.134 with SMTP id b128mr15895892wmg.36.1471266972605; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.87.135 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:15:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8e18f41d-3463-7a95-a184-e75030eedc48@gentoo.org> References: <6046d13b-1a54-aa5e-ab16-df448b0f8c59@gentoo.org> <20160815162943.192f2605@katipo2.lan> <8e18f41d-3463-7a95-a184-e75030eedc48@gentoo.org> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:15:51 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: #wg-stable: Reservations about a "STABLE" & "NeedsStable" bugzilla keywords (re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree) To: Gentoo Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: a8e4a336-928a-4450-8d7c-2d5d3c7c066b X-Archives-Hash: 9b59018a056273b0dfd254397f32dba0 On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Could you please elaborate a bit? In particular from perspective of (i) > integration into current workflow, (ii) complexity in application > maintenance/hosting (iii) cost/benefit considerations Well, I think stabilization (and, to some extent, keywording) is a very different process from handling bugs and feature requests. It would be great if we had tooling that focuses on these instead of trying to fit into the bug tracker. It would entail a different workflow, obviously, but I think that's a plus in this case, and we could make sure we have the command-line tools to make it easy to work with. Development/maintenance/hosting is an issue, though it's a bit hard to say something definitive about it before there's more of a plan of how such a tool could work. It's enough of a pain for me that I could see myself investing some time in development. Perhaps some kind of middle ground would be to handle this stuff in a separate Bugzilla product, and then making sure we have some tooling around that to better present the data. Cheers, Dirkjan