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From: Gregory Woodbury <redwolfe@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:05:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJoOjx9D7TseAEMsvArXYFvYHeGFm1xfYpLxnfEuzGBGqRfKLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151031090843.19fee262.mgorny@gentoo.org>

Grammar and style police are everywhere!
This week are they shooting themselves in the foot over some totally
trivial and meaningless extra characters somewhere on a line?
Is it a case of "#TriviaDoesntMatter"?

AFAICT the limitations on line lengths are are ANCIENT holdovers
from days of fixed lenght cards and glass-teletypes. Totally meaningless
in today's terminal emulator in GUIs world.

It is certainly laudable to keep text block widths reasonable. It is fact that
it is easier to read text at 6 or 7 inches wide versus more than 8 inches.
BUT, it is also clear that a *consistent* style is easier to read instead of
needlessly varying styles in one document.

As for "being hesitant to touch anything anymore"...
Practically all of the FOSS projects have adopted rather stringent and
ridiculuous requirements that programmers and other have to jump
through hoops (of flame?) to prove their qualifications to do anything.
Gentoo is maybe one of the more conservative about having to go
through the motions in oder to qualify as a "developer" and, personally,
I no longer have the time or inclination (at my age of 62) to do so, just so
that my 50+ years of programming and typing can be subject to the
arbitrary rules.  I don't expect to be granted free access to the
code base without some oversight, but a code review by one or
more others before a commit would/should be more than adequate
to exclude bugs and blunders from being introduced.

Over the years I have done much for the FOSS movement, and I
have posted some small tools and scripts that some may find usefull, and
where possible I contribute via bugzilla. I much prefer Gentoo as a platform
since it is still committed to allowing the users to make significant
choices about the environment instead of imposing "one way" policies
as some other projects have done.

But seeing this little tempest merely convinces me that some folks
still don't get the point that some things of a substative nature
(such as correctness and choice) are of more importance than
other things (like "style" or options.)  Also, avoiding idiosyncratic
changes that have unforseen or un-intended consequences should
be coordinated with others before introduction to a stable system.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury
redwolfe@gmail.com


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-31 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1446206629.df8e399c9bac2dc30d7cf69c2462a81729a3ae69.jlec@gentoo>
2015-10-30 17:20 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ Michał Górny
2015-10-31  7:06   ` Mike Frysinger
2015-10-31  8:08     ` Michał Górny
2015-10-31 15:05       ` Gregory Woodbury [this message]
2015-11-10 23:53       ` Mike Frysinger
2015-11-11  9:09         ` Michał Górny
2015-11-11 14:42           ` Luca Barbato
2015-11-01  7:15   ` Ian Delaney
     [not found] <1567619929.63486fef43c2e0dee3b4128db18fd1a6b4bf9381.tupone@gentoo>
2019-09-04 18:59 ` Michał Górny
2019-09-04 22:30   ` David Seifert
2019-09-04 23:26   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-05  4:02     ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 13:14       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-05 14:04         ` Gordon Pettey
2019-09-05 19:26           ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-05 19:28             ` James Le Cuirot
2019-09-05 19:47         ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 19:49           ` Michael Everitt
2019-09-05 20:08           ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-05 20:16             ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 22:47               ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-06  3:45                 ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-06  6:35                   ` Alfredo Tupone
2019-09-06  5:49                 ` Michał Górny
2019-09-06  4:02     ` Mike Gilbert
     [not found] <1564451381.6f680e4fe73925ae130343e02adb416cb799ce7d.mattst88@gentoo>
2019-07-30  5:20 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-30  5:29   ` Matt Turner
     [not found] <1526675772.d780c05e4459175eb314c82de9f3b998e2b4fc6e.asturm@gentoo>
2018-05-18 21:53 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1515158020.1e09cba657ccb2b8e6fbcbeb28c5c593da2127eb.polynomial-c@gentoo>
2018-01-05 13:36 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1494961831.d1b05bcf81e5058c20615179fb83a90c45daa487.vapier@gentoo>
2017-05-16 19:20 ` Michał Górny
2017-05-16 19:36   ` Fabian Groffen
2017-05-21 14:02     ` Kent Fredric
2017-05-21 14:46       ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-21 16:29         ` William Hubbs
2017-05-21 17:34           ` Michał Górny
2017-05-21 18:18             ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-21 19:32             ` Kent Fredric
2017-05-21 20:38               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-05-21 23:28               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-05-21 17:46   ` Raymond Jennings
2017-05-22  1:13     ` Luis Ressel
     [not found] <1463773635.548f4ee19c6b0fe0d5e87e84a5a82c421229e0ce.johu@gentoo>
2016-05-20 19:55 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1462655928.66afcab271f65b97330e610040ad3acc1b812a03.hd_brummy@gentoo>
2016-05-07 21:25 ` Michał Górny
2016-05-07 21:48   ` Ryan Hill
2016-05-09 23:10   ` Doug Goldstein
2016-05-13  8:52   ` Ian Delaney
2016-05-14  9:55     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-14 11:35       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-14 11:55         ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 15:04         ` Gordon Pettey
2016-05-14 16:53           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-05-14 16:59             ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 17:06               ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 17:07                 ` landis blackwell
2016-05-14 17:52                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 19:21                     ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 20:23                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15 10:47                         ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-14 17:08                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 20:06               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-14 11:55     ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-14 13:54       ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 23:40         ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-14 23:48           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-15  0:23             ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-15  1:04               ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15  1:12                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-16  7:56                 ` Ian Delaney
2016-05-16  8:20                   ` Consus
2016-05-16  8:30                   ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-16  9:05                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-16 16:21                     ` Andrew Savchenko
2016-05-16 16:32                       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-15  0:59           ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15  1:12             ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-15  9:53           ` Ryan Hill
2016-05-15 11:04             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 22:55               ` Duncan
2016-05-15 23:07                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-16  0:12                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-15 18:43             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-15 10:29           ` Michał Górny
2016-05-15 11:16             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 22:46               ` Duncan
2016-05-15 23:19                 ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15  9:05   ` Jeroen Roovers
2016-05-15  9:15     ` Brian Dolbec
2016-05-15 11:18       ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 14:27         ` Brian Dolbec
     [not found] <1460833703.ad0c2ab2bdbd34f4550e49c56cfd5974d6a2c07a.blueness@gentoo>
2016-04-16 19:05 ` Michał Górny
2016-04-16 19:13   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:16   ` Rich Freeman
2016-04-16 19:18     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:41       ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:27   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:31     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 22:24       ` Mike Gilbert
2016-04-16 22:36         ` Rich Freeman
2016-04-16 22:46           ` Mike Gilbert
2016-04-16 22:54             ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 22:50           ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-17  8:15   ` Fabian Groffen
2016-04-17  8:28     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-17 22:50       ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-18  2:09         ` Luca Barbato
     [not found] <1448180855.a144d7480f781f21323943d87e6a56136add3830.mr_bones_@gentoo>
2015-11-22  8:38 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1447717075.aac24917ebe254a23990f0d7fff9f6f570b99d15.mpagano@gentoo>
2015-11-17  7:19 ` Michał Górny
2015-11-17 20:37   ` Raymond Jennings
2015-11-17 23:42     ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-17 21:59   ` Mike Pagano
     [not found] <1447458773.ad4c142684afb096e8fff2937ae5c5c3385dd22e.mgorny@gentoo>
2015-11-16  9:01 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16  9:06   ` Justin Lecher (jlec)
2015-11-16  9:14     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16  9:29       ` Justin Lecher (jlec)
2015-11-16  9:52         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16 12:08           ` Rich Freeman
     [not found] <1444389412.5220bb29741e1685b42a6312c0b7bf2821672040.aballier@gentoo>
2015-10-09 15:32 ` hasufell
2015-10-09 16:21   ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-09 16:25     ` hasufell

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